GRUB 1.98 available in debian lenny, How to get fancy terminal ?

GRUB 1.98 available in debian lenny, How to get fancy terminal ?

[J. Bakshi]

Hello everyone,

I am happy to see the availability of grub 1.98 in debian lenny after the up-gradation I did yesterday night. The /boot/grub folder now contains  unicode.pf2, unicode.ppf as well as GRUBtheme folder containing winter etc. theme. Is there any doc to configure the themes, vga terminal etc, so that I can do some experiment with all these cool features ?

with regards

Re: GRUB 1.98 available in debian lenny, How to get fancy terminal ?

[Chris Jones]

On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 09:29:57AM EST, J. Bakshi wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am happy to see the availability of grub 1.98 in debian lenny after
> the up-gradation I did yesterday night. The /boot/grub folder now
> contains  unicode.pf2, unicode.ppf as well as GRUBtheme folder
> containing winter etc. theme. Is there any doc to configure the
> themes, vga terminal etc, so that I can do some experiment with all
> these cool features ?

debian lenny?

| $ apt-get update
| ...
| $ apt-show-versions grub-pc
| grub-pc/lenny uptodate 1.96+20080724-16
| $ apt-show-versions grub2
| grub2/lenny uptodate 1.96+20080724-16
| $ apt-show-versions grub-common
| grub-common/lenny uptodate 1.96+20080724-16
| $ apt-get install grub2
| Reading package lists... Done
| Building dependency tree
| Reading state information... Done
| grub2 is already the newest version.
| 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 12 not upgraded.

or are you talking about testing or unstable?

CJ

Re: GRUB 1.98 available in debian lenny, How to get fancy terminal ?

[Felix Zielcke]

Am Donnerstag, den 07.01.2010, 10:13 -0500 schrieb Chris Jones:
> On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 09:29:57AM EST, J. Bakshi wrote:
> 
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > I am happy to see the availability of grub 1.98 in debian lenny
> after
> > the up-gradation I did yesterday night. The /boot/grub folder now
> > contains  unicode.pf2, unicode.ppf as well as GRUBtheme folder
> > containing winter etc. theme. Is there any doc to configure the
> > themes, vga terminal etc, so that I can do some experiment with all
> > these cool features ?
> 
> debian lenny?
[...]
> or are you talking about testing or unstable?
> 
> CJ

Even lenny backports still has 1.97 beta3.
I already thought I totally missed something but the usual Debian pages
don't tell about some mysterious upload.
Only Debian experimental (and my PPA for Ubuntu though) has Colin
Bennets theming code (gfxmenu).
But we don't ship them.

The only docs about it that exist currently are the ones on Colin's site
AFAIK:
http://grub.gibibit.com/
But they're outdated now, the theme format has been changed and Colin's
current themes don't work anymore AFAIK
-- 
Felix Zielcke
Proud Debian Maintainer and GNU GRUB developer

Re: GRUB 1.98 available in debian lenny, How to get fancy terminal ?

[Colin D Bennett]

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On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:27:56 +0100
Felix Zielcke <fzielcke@z-51.de> wrote:

> Am Donnerstag, den 07.01.2010, 10:13 -0500 schrieb Chris Jones:
> 
> The only docs about it that exist currently are the ones on Colin's
> site AFAIK:
> http://grub.gibibit.com/
> But they're outdated now, the theme format has been changed and
> Colin's current themes don't work anymore AFAIK

BTW, the theme document is also on the wiki at
<http://grub.enbug.org/ThemeFormat>.

I am about to build GRUB for testing again, from the experimental
branch, and I can migrate my example themes to the new format.  It
looks from the source like the changes are mostly related to allowing
proportional position/size specifications.

Regards,
Colin

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Re: GRUB 1.98 available in debian lenny, How to get fancy terminal ?

[Robert Millan]

On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 08:33:24AM -0800, Colin D Bennett wrote:
> 
> BTW, the theme document is also on the wiki at
> <http://grub.enbug.org/ThemeFormat>.
> 
> I am about to build GRUB for testing again, from the experimental
> branch, and I can migrate my example themes to the new format.  It
> looks from the source like the changes are mostly related to allowing
> proportional position/size specifications.

Hi Colin,

More important than the format, is that we need a basic theme that only
depends on the fonts we currently provided.  Of course, this can be improved
as long as the new fonts are free (patches against the build system welcome),
but for now we only build single-size unifont.

(Aside from that, adding new fonts would introduce a delay for distributors
as they need to add new packages, get them approved, etc.  So in the interest
in bringing gfxmenu to mainstream as soon as possible, I would _strongly_
recommend to use the existing fonts for now)

Also, if you'd like to make an official GRUB theme with GNU-based image set,
you're more than welcome.

-- 
Robert Millan

  "Be the change you want to see in the world" -- Gandhi

Re: GRUB 1.98 available in debian lenny, How to get fancy terminal ?

[Colin D Bennett]

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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 22:47:38 +0100
Robert Millan <rmh@aybabtu.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 08:33:24AM -0800, Colin D Bennett wrote:
> > 
> > BTW, the theme document is also on the wiki at
> > <http://grub.enbug.org/ThemeFormat>.
> > 
> > I am about to build GRUB for testing again, from the experimental
> > branch, and I can migrate my example themes to the new format.  It
> > looks from the source like the changes are mostly related to
> > allowing proportional position/size specifications.
> 
> Hi Colin,
> 
> More important than the format, is that we need a basic theme that
> only depends on the fonts we currently provided.  Of course, this can
> be improved as long as the new fonts are free (patches against the
> build system welcome), but for now we only build single-size unifont.

Ok, I understand.

> (Aside from that, adding new fonts would introduce a delay for
> distributors as they need to add new packages, get them approved,
> etc.  So in the interest in bringing gfxmenu to mainstream as soon as
> possible, I would _strongly_ recommend to use the existing fonts for
> now)

When you say “existing fonts” do you mean there is a font other than
unifont?

> Also, if you'd like to make an official GRUB theme with GNU-based
> image set, you're more than welcome.

That's a good idea, for OS distributions that don't care to make their
own theme, at least we could have one or two good choices.

Regards,
Colin

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Re: GRUB 1.98 available in debian lenny, How to get fancy terminal ?

[Robert Millan]

On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 02:38:24PM -0800, Colin D Bennett wrote:
> 
> When you say “existing fonts” do you mean there is a font other than
> unifont?

Not that we currently provide.

-- 
Robert Millan

  "Be the change you want to see in the world" -- Gandhi

Re: GRUB 1.98 available in debian lenny, How to get fancy terminal ?

[J. Bakshi]

On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 10:13:45 -0500
Chris Jones <cjns1989@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 09:29:57AM EST, J. Bakshi wrote:
> 
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > I am happy to see the availability of grub 1.98 in debian lenny
> > after the up-gradation I did yesterday night. The /boot/grub folder
> > now contains  unicode.pf2, unicode.ppf as well as GRUBtheme folder
> > containing winter etc. theme. Is there any doc to configure the
> > themes, vga terminal etc, so that I can do some experiment with all
> > these cool features ?
> 
> debian lenny?
> 
> | $ apt-get update
> | ...
> | $ apt-show-versions grub-pc
> | grub-pc/lenny uptodate 1.96+20080724-16
> | $ apt-show-versions grub2
> | grub2/lenny uptodate 1.96+20080724-16
> | $ apt-show-versions grub-common
> | grub-common/lenny uptodate 1.96+20080724-16
> | $ apt-get install grub2
> | Reading package lists... Done
> | Building dependency tree
> | Reading state information... Done
> | grub2 is already the newest version.
> | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 12 not upgraded.
> 
> or are you talking about testing or unstable?
> 
> CJ

I apologize for the mistake. It is squeeze; debian testing.

Re: GRUB 1.98 available in debian lenny, How to get fancy terminal ?

[Robert Millan]

On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 07:59:57PM +0530, J. Bakshi wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am happy to see the availability of grub 1.98

That's very unlikely.  I don't recall having released 1.98 yet ;-)

-- 
Robert Millan

  "Be the change you want to see in the world" -- Gandhi