From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] Fix up the NFS mmap code
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 02:11:25 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100109021124.GG30528@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1001081750080.7821-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 05:57:27PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Al Viro wrote:
> >
> > readdir() is certainly a red herring.
>
> That's the one that lockdep reports, though. I still don't see why. Afaik,
> the only place where NFS gets an inode is nfs_fhget(), and that seems to
> do things correctly.
Well, sure - it steps on i_mutex-before-mmmap_sem first from ls somewhere and
records the ordering for posterity. Then NFS steps into mmap() (on a
different inode) and gets conflicting ordering.
It would be a false positive if rules for NFS *really* had been different
and it could safely grab i_mutex on NFS inodes inside mmap_sem. It can't.
The rules really are the same. And readdir is just the earliest case of
kernel stepping on mmap_sem while holding *some* i_mutex. write() is
another and there i_mutex can very well be the same as in case of mmap().
lockdep doesn't make a distinction (and really, how many paths reinforcing
the normal lock ordering would you record?), but if we'd given i_mutex of
NFS regular files a class of its own, we'd see a warning with nfs write
instead of readdir...
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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] Fix up the NFS mmap code
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 02:11:25 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100109021124.GG30528@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1001081750080.7821@localhost.localdomain>
On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 05:57:27PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Al Viro wrote:
> >
> > readdir() is certainly a red herring.
>
> That's the one that lockdep reports, though. I still don't see why. Afaik,
> the only place where NFS gets an inode is nfs_fhget(), and that seems to
> do things correctly.
Well, sure - it steps on i_mutex-before-mmmap_sem first from ls somewhere and
records the ordering for posterity. Then NFS steps into mmap() (on a
different inode) and gets conflicting ordering.
It would be a false positive if rules for NFS *really* had been different
and it could safely grab i_mutex on NFS inodes inside mmap_sem. It can't.
The rules really are the same. And readdir is just the earliest case of
kernel stepping on mmap_sem while holding *some* i_mutex. write() is
another and there i_mutex can very well be the same as in case of mmap().
lockdep doesn't make a distinction (and really, how many paths reinforcing
the normal lock ordering would you record?), but if we'd given i_mutex of
NFS regular files a class of its own, we'd see a warning with nfs write
instead of readdir...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-09 2:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-07 20:29 [GIT PULL] Please pull NFS client bugfixes Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 21:00 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-07 21:23 ` Peter Staubach
2010-01-07 21:35 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-07 21:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 23:51 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-08 0:14 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-08 0:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 0:45 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-08 1:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-08 1:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-08 1:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 1:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-08 1:26 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-09 0:56 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Fix up the NFS mmap code Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <20100109005624.7473.33215.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-09 0:56 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] VFS: Add a mmap_file() callback to struct file_operations Trond Myklebust
2010-01-09 0:56 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-09 1:17 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Fix up the NFS mmap code Linus Torvalds
2010-01-09 1:17 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1001081709470.7821-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-09 1:38 ` Al Viro
2010-01-09 1:38 ` Al Viro
2010-01-09 1:46 ` Al Viro
2010-01-09 1:57 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1001081750080.7821-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-09 2:11 ` Al Viro [this message]
2010-01-09 2:11 ` Al Viro
2010-01-09 2:22 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1001081814240.7821-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-09 2:30 ` Al Viro
2010-01-09 2:30 ` Al Viro
2010-01-09 2:40 ` Al Viro
2010-01-09 2:43 ` Al Viro
2010-01-10 2:00 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-10 2:00 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-09 0:56 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] NFS: Fix a potential deadlock in nfs_file_mmap() Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <20100109005624.7473.15560.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-09 1:54 ` Al Viro
2010-01-09 1:54 ` Al Viro
2010-01-08 1:30 ` [GIT PULL] Please pull NFS client bugfixes Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 1:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 2:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-14 13:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-08 5:19 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-08 1:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-08 0:43 ` Andi Kleen
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