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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/8] vmalloc: simplify vread()/vwrite()
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:35:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100118133512.GC721@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100114124526.GB7518@laptop>

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 05:45:26AM -0700, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 09:53:10PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > vread()/vwrite() is only called from kcore/kmem to access one page at a time.
> > So the logic can be vastly simplified.
> > 
> > The changes are:
> > - remove the vmlist walk and rely solely on vmalloc_to_page()
> > - replace the VM_IOREMAP check with (page && page_is_ram(pfn))
> > - rename to vread_page()/vwrite_page()
> > 
> > The page_is_ram() check is necessary because kmap_atomic() is not
> > designed to work with non-RAM pages.
> 
> I don't know if you can really do this. Previously vmlist_lock would be
> taken, which will prevent these vm areas from being freed.
>  
> > Note that even for a RAM page, we don't own the page, and cannot assume
> > it's a _PAGE_CACHE_WB page.
> 
> So why is this not a problem for your patch? I don't see how you handle
> it.

Sorry I didn't handle it. Just hope to catch attentions from someone
(ie. you :).

It's not a problem for x86_64 at all. For others I wonder if any
driver will vmalloc HIGHMEM pages with !_PAGE_CACHE_WB attribute..

So I noted the possible problem and leave it alone.

> What's the problem with the current code, exactly? I would prefer that

- unnecessary complexity to handle multi-page case, since it's always
  called to access one single page;

- the kmap_atomic() cache consistency problem, which I expressed some
  concern (without further action)

> you continue using the same vmlist locking and checking for validating
> addresses.

It's a reasonable suggestion. Kame, would you agree on killing the
kmap_atomic() and revert to the vmlist walk?

Thanks,
Fengguang

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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/8] vmalloc: simplify vread()/vwrite()
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:35:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100118133512.GC721@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100114124526.GB7518@laptop>

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 05:45:26AM -0700, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 09:53:10PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > vread()/vwrite() is only called from kcore/kmem to access one page at a time.
> > So the logic can be vastly simplified.
> > 
> > The changes are:
> > - remove the vmlist walk and rely solely on vmalloc_to_page()
> > - replace the VM_IOREMAP check with (page && page_is_ram(pfn))
> > - rename to vread_page()/vwrite_page()
> > 
> > The page_is_ram() check is necessary because kmap_atomic() is not
> > designed to work with non-RAM pages.
> 
> I don't know if you can really do this. Previously vmlist_lock would be
> taken, which will prevent these vm areas from being freed.
>  
> > Note that even for a RAM page, we don't own the page, and cannot assume
> > it's a _PAGE_CACHE_WB page.
> 
> So why is this not a problem for your patch? I don't see how you handle
> it.

Sorry I didn't handle it. Just hope to catch attentions from someone
(ie. you :).

It's not a problem for x86_64 at all. For others I wonder if any
driver will vmalloc HIGHMEM pages with !_PAGE_CACHE_WB attribute..

So I noted the possible problem and leave it alone.

> What's the problem with the current code, exactly? I would prefer that

- unnecessary complexity to handle multi-page case, since it's always
  called to access one single page;

- the kmap_atomic() cache consistency problem, which I expressed some
  concern (without further action)

> you continue using the same vmlist locking and checking for validating
> addresses.

It's a reasonable suggestion. Kame, would you agree on killing the
kmap_atomic() and revert to the vmlist walk?

Thanks,
Fengguang

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-18 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-13 13:53 [PATCH 0/8] devmem/kmem/kcore fixes, cleanups and hwpoison checks Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 13:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 13:53 ` [PATCH 1/8] vfs: fix too big f_pos handling Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 13:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 13:53 ` [PATCH 2/8] devmem: check vmalloc address on kmem read/write Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 13:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 13:53 ` [PATCH 3/8] devmem: fix kmem write bug on memory holes Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 13:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 13:53 ` [PATCH 4/8] resources: introduce generic page_is_ram() Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 13:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 13:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 14:29   ` Américo Wang
2010-01-13 14:29     ` Américo Wang
2010-01-14  3:29     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-14  3:29       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 13:53 ` [PATCH 5/8] vmalloc: simplify vread()/vwrite() Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 13:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-14 12:45   ` Nick Piggin
2010-01-14 12:45     ` Nick Piggin
2010-01-18 13:35     ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-01-18 13:35       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-18 14:23       ` Nick Piggin
2010-01-18 14:23         ` Nick Piggin
2010-01-19  1:33         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-19  1:33           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-19  2:23           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-19  2:23             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-21  5:05             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-21  5:05               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-21  5:21               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-21  5:21                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-21  5:49                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-21  5:49                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 13:53 ` [PATCH 6/8] hwpoison: prevent /dev/kmem from accessing hwpoison pages Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 13:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 13:53 ` [PATCH 7/8] hwpoison: prevent /dev/mem " Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 13:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 13:53 ` [PATCH 8/8] hwpoison: prevent /dev/kcore " Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 13:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-13 14:23   ` Américo Wang
2010-01-13 14:23     ` Américo Wang

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