* [XCP] new version available
@ 2010-01-18 18:13 Dave Scott
2010-01-18 18:19 ` Dave Scott
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From: Dave Scott @ 2010-01-18 18:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'xen-api-GuqFBffKawuULHF6PoxzQEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org',
'xen-devel-GuqFBffKawuULHF6PoxzQEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org'
Hi,
I've refreshed the Xen Cloud Platform (XCP) .isos on xen.org with a new
development snapshot (labeled version 0.1.1). XCP is a collaborative
effort to build a complete cloud infrastructure platform, complete with
a powerful management stack, standards-based APIs, support for
multi-tenancy and much more. See:
http://www.xen.org/products/cloud_source.html
Since we released the first snapshot (0.1) we've had lots of contributions
and valuable feedback. Particular thanks to
* Nicira for contributing the openvswitch (enabled by default,
replaces linux bridging)
* Marathon for contributing patches for FT
* Ahmed Kamal for documenting how XCP consoles work[1]
* Colin Dean for creating a VNC console proxy and web front end[2]
* Alberto Gonzalez Rodriguez for creating a standalone front-end[3]
In this update further highlights are:
* dom0 refreshed to CentOS 5.4
* xen refreshed to 3.4.2
* support for host SMBIOS data to be passed through to VMs
* improvements to experimental PCI passthrough
This update contains hundreds of changesets containing lots and lots of
bugfixes and performance improvements, including:
* VM lifecycle queuing deadlock fixed
* rare post-fork() spinning xapi process fixed
* Active Directory authentication fixes
* PV drivers check for magic strings in xenstore removed
* lots of memory ballooning fixes
What's next:
* more stabilising/ bugfixing
* more hg repositories (storage coming soon)
* prototypes of new features (e.g. stub domains, advanced vhd management)
* aim to release an alpha late Jan/ early Feb
Development continues on the mailing list: xen-api-GuqFBffKawuULHF6PoxzQEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org
As always, comments / suggestions / patches welcome!
Cheers,
Dave
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread* RE: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-18 18:13 [XCP] new version available Dave Scott @ 2010-01-18 18:19 ` Dave Scott 2010-01-18 18:24 ` Thiago Camargo Martins Cordeiro [not found] ` <81A73678E76EA642801C8F2E4823AD2143B8C194C1-aFusIB7tbcLeU4JHVX8hdHnr0TU713UqXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org> ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Dave Scott @ 2010-01-18 18:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'xen-api@lists.xensource.com', 'xen-devel@lists.xensource.com' Hi again, Sorry I forgot the links I was going to add: [1] http://foss-boss.blogspot.com/2010/01/taming-xen-cloud-platform-consoles.html [2] http://www.xvpsource.org/ [3] http://www.openxencenter.com/ Sorry about that! Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-api- > bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Dave Scott > Sent: 18 January 2010 18:13 > To: 'xen-api@lists.xensource.com'; 'xen-devel@lists.xensource.com' > Subject: [Xen-API] [XCP] new version available > > Hi, > > I've refreshed the Xen Cloud Platform (XCP) .isos on xen.org with a new > development snapshot (labeled version 0.1.1). XCP is a collaborative > effort to build a complete cloud infrastructure platform, complete with > a powerful management stack, standards-based APIs, support for > multi-tenancy and much more. See: > > http://www.xen.org/products/cloud_source.html > > Since we released the first snapshot (0.1) we've had lots of > contributions > and valuable feedback. Particular thanks to > > * Nicira for contributing the openvswitch (enabled by default, > replaces linux bridging) > * Marathon for contributing patches for FT > * Ahmed Kamal for documenting how XCP consoles work[1] > * Colin Dean for creating a VNC console proxy and web front end[2] > * Alberto Gonzalez Rodriguez for creating a standalone front-end[3] > > In this update further highlights are: > > * dom0 refreshed to CentOS 5.4 > * xen refreshed to 3.4.2 > * support for host SMBIOS data to be passed through to VMs > * improvements to experimental PCI passthrough > > This update contains hundreds of changesets containing lots and lots of > bugfixes and performance improvements, including: > > * VM lifecycle queuing deadlock fixed > * rare post-fork() spinning xapi process fixed > * Active Directory authentication fixes > * PV drivers check for magic strings in xenstore removed > * lots of memory ballooning fixes > > What's next: > > * more stabilising/ bugfixing > * more hg repositories (storage coming soon) > * prototypes of new features (e.g. stub domains, advanced vhd > management) > * aim to release an alpha late Jan/ early Feb > > Development continues on the mailing list: xen-api@lists.xensource.com > As always, comments / suggestions / patches welcome! > > Cheers, > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: RE: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-18 18:19 ` Dave Scott @ 2010-01-18 18:24 ` Thiago Camargo Martins Cordeiro 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Thiago Camargo Martins Cordeiro @ 2010-01-18 18:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Scott; +Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, xen-api@lists.xensource.com [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2996 bytes --] It is possible to use the Windows client XenCenter with XCP? I wanna make a mix environment, with XenServer 5.5 FREE and some XCP managed from the same XenCenter... Thanks! Thiago 2010/1/18 Dave Scott <Dave.Scott@eu.citrix.com> > Hi again, > > Sorry I forgot the links I was going to add: > > > [1] > http://foss-boss.blogspot.com/2010/01/taming-xen-cloud-platform-consoles.html > [2] http://www.xvpsource.org/ > [3] http://www.openxencenter.com/ > > Sorry about that! > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-api- > > bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Dave Scott > > Sent: 18 January 2010 18:13 > > To: 'xen-api@lists.xensource.com'; 'xen-devel@lists.xensource.com' > > Subject: [Xen-API] [XCP] new version available > > > > Hi, > > > > I've refreshed the Xen Cloud Platform (XCP) .isos on xen.org with a new > > development snapshot (labeled version 0.1.1). XCP is a collaborative > > effort to build a complete cloud infrastructure platform, complete with > > a powerful management stack, standards-based APIs, support for > > multi-tenancy and much more. See: > > > > http://www.xen.org/products/cloud_source.html > > > > Since we released the first snapshot (0.1) we've had lots of > > contributions > > and valuable feedback. Particular thanks to > > > > * Nicira for contributing the openvswitch (enabled by default, > > replaces linux bridging) > > * Marathon for contributing patches for FT > > * Ahmed Kamal for documenting how XCP consoles work[1] > > * Colin Dean for creating a VNC console proxy and web front end[2] > > * Alberto Gonzalez Rodriguez for creating a standalone front-end[3] > > > > In this update further highlights are: > > > > * dom0 refreshed to CentOS 5.4 > > * xen refreshed to 3.4.2 > > * support for host SMBIOS data to be passed through to VMs > > * improvements to experimental PCI passthrough > > > > This update contains hundreds of changesets containing lots and lots of > > bugfixes and performance improvements, including: > > > > * VM lifecycle queuing deadlock fixed > > * rare post-fork() spinning xapi process fixed > > * Active Directory authentication fixes > > * PV drivers check for magic strings in xenstore removed > > * lots of memory ballooning fixes > > > > What's next: > > > > * more stabilising/ bugfixing > > * more hg repositories (storage coming soon) > > * prototypes of new features (e.g. stub domains, advanced vhd > > management) > > * aim to release an alpha late Jan/ early Feb > > > > Development continues on the mailing list: xen-api@lists.xensource.com > > As always, comments / suggestions / patches welcome! > > > > Cheers, > > Dave > > > > _______________________________________________ > > xen-api mailing list > > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-devel mailing list > Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4723 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 138 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
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* Re: [Xen-devel] [XCP] new version available [not found] ` <81A73678E76EA642801C8F2E4823AD2143B8C194C1-aFusIB7tbcLeU4JHVX8hdHnr0TU713UqXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org> @ 2010-01-18 20:03 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen 2010-01-19 13:43 ` [Xen-API] " Marco Sinhoreli 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Pasi Kärkkäinen @ 2010-01-18 20:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Scott Cc: 'xen-devel-GuqFBffKawuULHF6PoxzQEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org', 'xen-api-GuqFBffKawuULHF6PoxzQEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org' On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 06:13:09PM +0000, Dave Scott wrote: > Hi, > > I've refreshed the Xen Cloud Platform (XCP) .isos on xen.org with a new > development snapshot (labeled version 0.1.1). XCP is a collaborative > effort to build a complete cloud infrastructure platform, complete with > a powerful management stack, standards-based APIs, support for > multi-tenancy and much more. See: > > http://www.xen.org/products/cloud_source.html > > Since we released the first snapshot (0.1) we've had lots of contributions > and valuable feedback. Particular thanks to > > * Nicira for contributing the openvswitch (enabled by default, > replaces linux bridging) > * Marathon for contributing patches for FT > * Ahmed Kamal for documenting how XCP consoles work[1] > * Colin Dean for creating a VNC console proxy and web front end[2] > * Alberto Gonzalez Rodriguez for creating a standalone front-end[3] > > In this update further highlights are: > > * dom0 refreshed to CentOS 5.4 > * xen refreshed to 3.4.2 > * support for host SMBIOS data to be passed through to VMs > * improvements to experimental PCI passthrough > > This update contains hundreds of changesets containing lots and lots of > bugfixes and performance improvements, including: > > * VM lifecycle queuing deadlock fixed > * rare post-fork() spinning xapi process fixed > * Active Directory authentication fixes > * PV drivers check for magic strings in xenstore removed > * lots of memory ballooning fixes > Congrats and thanks for the new release! Looks good. > What's next: > > * more stabilising/ bugfixing > * more hg repositories (storage coming soon) Don't forget the kernel repository :) -- Pasi > * prototypes of new features (e.g. stub domains, advanced vhd management) > * aim to release an alpha late Jan/ early Feb > > Development continues on the mailing list: xen-api-GuqFBffKawuULHF6PoxzQEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org > As always, comments / suggestions / patches welcome! > > Cheers, > Dave > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: [Xen-API] Re: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-18 20:03 ` [Xen-devel] " Pasi Kärkkäinen @ 2010-01-19 13:43 ` Marco Sinhoreli 2010-01-19 13:53 ` Ian Campbell 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Marco Sinhoreli @ 2010-01-19 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Pasi Kärkkäinen Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Dave Scott, xen-api@lists.xensource.com Hi all, The openvswitch is already enabled in XCP? It could to change some call in xapi or in network infrastructure like switches? I have these questions because I have a system running on top of XCP 0.1. Cheers, On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@iki.fi> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 06:13:09PM +0000, Dave Scott wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've refreshed the Xen Cloud Platform (XCP) .isos on xen.org with a new >> development snapshot (labeled version 0.1.1). XCP is a collaborative >> effort to build a complete cloud infrastructure platform, complete with >> a powerful management stack, standards-based APIs, support for >> multi-tenancy and much more. See: >> >> http://www.xen.org/products/cloud_source.html >> >> Since we released the first snapshot (0.1) we've had lots of contributions >> and valuable feedback. Particular thanks to >> >> * Nicira for contributing the openvswitch (enabled by default, >> replaces linux bridging) >> * Marathon for contributing patches for FT >> * Ahmed Kamal for documenting how XCP consoles work[1] >> * Colin Dean for creating a VNC console proxy and web front end[2] >> * Alberto Gonzalez Rodriguez for creating a standalone front-end[3] >> >> In this update further highlights are: >> >> * dom0 refreshed to CentOS 5.4 >> * xen refreshed to 3.4.2 >> * support for host SMBIOS data to be passed through to VMs >> * improvements to experimental PCI passthrough >> >> This update contains hundreds of changesets containing lots and lots of >> bugfixes and performance improvements, including: >> >> * VM lifecycle queuing deadlock fixed >> * rare post-fork() spinning xapi process fixed >> * Active Directory authentication fixes >> * PV drivers check for magic strings in xenstore removed >> * lots of memory ballooning fixes >> > > Congrats and thanks for the new release! Looks good. > >> What's next: >> >> * more stabilising/ bugfixing >> * more hg repositories (storage coming soon) > > Don't forget the kernel repository :) > > -- Pasi > >> * prototypes of new features (e.g. stub domains, advanced vhd management) >> * aim to release an alpha late Jan/ early Feb >> >> Development continues on the mailing list: xen-api@lists.xensource.com >> As always, comments / suggestions / patches welcome! >> >> Cheers, >> Dave >> > > > _______________________________________________ > xen-api mailing list > xen-api@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api > -- Marco Sinhoreli ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: [Xen-API] Re: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-19 13:43 ` [Xen-API] " Marco Sinhoreli @ 2010-01-19 13:53 ` Ian Campbell 2010-01-19 14:06 ` Rob Hoes 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Ian Campbell @ 2010-01-19 13:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Marco Sinhoreli Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Dave Scott, xen-api@lists.xensource.com On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 13:43 +0000, Marco Sinhoreli wrote: > Hi all, > > The openvswitch is already enabled in XCP? Yes. > It could to change some > call in xapi or in network infrastructure like switches? If you are asking whether this change will cause an XCP host to try and configure/manage your physical switches then the answer is no. This change is purely to replace the Linux bridging implementation used on an XCP host with an openvswitch based solution. It doesn't change any XenAPI calls but it does necessarily change the implementation of the interactions between xapi and host's network subsystem. Mainly those changes are in ocaml/netdev/netdev.ml and in things like the interface-reconfigure and VIF hotplug scripts. Ian. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* RE: [Xen-API] Re: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-19 13:53 ` Ian Campbell @ 2010-01-19 14:06 ` Rob Hoes 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Rob Hoes @ 2010-01-19 14:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Marco Sinhoreli Cc: Dave, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Scott, xen-api@lists.xensource.com [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1596 bytes --] Furthermore, you can still switch between the vswitch and linux bridging network subsystems by altering the file /etc/xensource/network.conf ("vswitch" or "bridge"). The default is now "vswitch", and eventually the linux bridging option will be removed. See http://openvswitch.org/ for more information about the vswitch. Cheers, Rob -----Original Message----- From: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Ian Campbell Sent: 19 January 2010 13:53 To: Marco Sinhoreli Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com; Dave Scott; xen-api@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-devel] [XCP] new version available On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 13:43 +0000, Marco Sinhoreli wrote: > Hi all, > > The openvswitch is already enabled in XCP? Yes. > It could to change some > call in xapi or in network infrastructure like switches? If you are asking whether this change will cause an XCP host to try and configure/manage your physical switches then the answer is no. This change is purely to replace the Linux bridging implementation used on an XCP host with an openvswitch based solution. It doesn't change any XenAPI calls but it does necessarily change the implementation of the interactions between xapi and host's network subsystem. Mainly those changes are in ocaml/netdev/netdev.ml and in things like the interface-reconfigure and VIF hotplug scripts. Ian. _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 138 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-18 18:13 [XCP] new version available Dave Scott 2010-01-18 18:19 ` Dave Scott [not found] ` <81A73678E76EA642801C8F2E4823AD2143B8C194C1-aFusIB7tbcLeU4JHVX8hdHnr0TU713UqXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org> @ 2010-01-19 14:36 ` Markus Schuster 2010-01-19 17:54 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen 2010-01-25 23:29 ` Rose, Gregory V 3 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Markus Schuster @ 2010-01-19 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: xen-devel Dave Scott wrote: > * PV drivers check for magic strings in xenstore removed Scott, one question: Can the Windows PV drivers be used with "normal" XEN or is some additional infrastructure from XCP necessary? Regards, Markus ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-19 14:36 ` Markus Schuster @ 2010-01-19 17:54 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen 2010-01-19 17:57 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Pasi Kärkkäinen @ 2010-01-19 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Markus Schuster; +Cc: xen-devel On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:36:16PM +0100, Markus Schuster wrote: > Dave Scott wrote: > > * PV drivers check for magic strings in xenstore removed > > Scott, one question: Can the Windows PV drivers be used with "normal" XEN or > is some additional infrastructure from XCP necessary? > Yes they can, with some patches to Xen: http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2009-11/msg00932.html http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2009-12/msg00593.html -- Pasi ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-19 17:54 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen @ 2010-01-19 17:57 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen 2010-01-19 19:30 ` Markus Schuster 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Pasi Kärkkäinen @ 2010-01-19 17:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Markus Schuster; +Cc: xen-devel On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 07:54:08PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:36:16PM +0100, Markus Schuster wrote: > > Dave Scott wrote: > > > * PV drivers check for magic strings in xenstore removed > > > > Scott, one question: Can the Windows PV drivers be used with "normal" XEN or > > is some additional infrastructure from XCP necessary? > > > > Yes they can, with some patches to Xen: > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2009-11/msg00932.html > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2009-12/msg00593.html > These patches are already in xen-3.4-testing.hg and in xen-unstable.hg, so they'll be in Xen 3.4.3 and 4.0.0 releases. -- Pasi ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-19 17:57 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen @ 2010-01-19 19:30 ` Markus Schuster 2010-01-19 19:36 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Markus Schuster @ 2010-01-19 19:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Pasi Kärkkäinen; +Cc: xen-devel On Tuesday 19 January 2010 18:57:11 Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 07:54:08PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:36:16PM +0100, Markus Schuster wrote: > > > Dave Scott wrote: > > > > * PV drivers check for magic strings in xenstore removed > > > > > > Scott, one question: Can the Windows PV drivers be used with "normal" > > > XEN or is some additional infrastructure from XCP necessary? > > > > Yes they can, with some patches to Xen: > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2009-11/msg00932.html > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2009-12/msg00593.html > > These patches are already in xen-3.4-testing.hg and in xen-unstable.hg, so > they'll be in Xen 3.4.3 and 4.0.0 releases. That's cool! Is there some comparison with GPLPV drivers in case of stability, speed, features and so on? It looks a bit like future competition between the two driver packs? Regards, Markus ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-19 19:30 ` Markus Schuster @ 2010-01-19 19:36 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen 2010-01-19 19:39 ` Markus Schuster 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Pasi Kärkkäinen @ 2010-01-19 19:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Markus Schuster; +Cc: xen-devel On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 08:30:40PM +0100, Markus Schuster wrote: > On Tuesday 19 January 2010 18:57:11 Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 07:54:08PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:36:16PM +0100, Markus Schuster wrote: > > > > Dave Scott wrote: > > > > > * PV drivers check for magic strings in xenstore removed > > > > > > > > Scott, one question: Can the Windows PV drivers be used with "normal" > > > > XEN or is some additional infrastructure from XCP necessary? > > > > > > Yes they can, with some patches to Xen: > > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2009-11/msg00932.html > > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2009-12/msg00593.html > > > > These patches are already in xen-3.4-testing.hg and in xen-unstable.hg, so > > they'll be in Xen 3.4.3 and 4.0.0 releases. > > That's cool! Is there some comparison with GPLPV drivers in case of stability, > speed, features and so on? > It looks a bit like future competition between the two driver packs? > Well the major difference is that GPLPV drivers are opensource, and the Citrix Windows PV drivers provided in XCP are not. Feel free to benchmark and compare :) -- Pasi ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-19 19:36 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen @ 2010-01-19 19:39 ` Markus Schuster 2010-01-21 17:48 ` Ian Pratt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Markus Schuster @ 2010-01-19 19:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Pasi Kärkkäinen; +Cc: xen-devel On Tuesday 19 January 2010 20:36:06 Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 08:30:40PM +0100, Markus Schuster wrote: > > On Tuesday 19 January 2010 18:57:11 Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 07:54:08PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:36:16PM +0100, Markus Schuster wrote: > > > > > Dave Scott wrote: > > > > > > * PV drivers check for magic strings in xenstore removed > > > > > > > > > > Scott, one question: Can the Windows PV drivers be used with > > > > > "normal" XEN or is some additional infrastructure from XCP > > > > > necessary? > > > > > > > > Yes they can, with some patches to Xen: > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2009-11/msg00932.h > > > >tml > > > > http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2009-12/msg00593.h > > > >tml > > > > > > These patches are already in xen-3.4-testing.hg and in xen-unstable.hg, > > > so they'll be in Xen 3.4.3 and 4.0.0 releases. > > > > That's cool! Is there some comparison with GPLPV drivers in case of > > stability, speed, features and so on? > > It looks a bit like future competition between the two driver packs? > > Well the major difference is that GPLPV drivers are opensource, > and the Citrix Windows PV drivers provided in XCP are not. Ah, I see - too bad Citrix couldn't open source them :) Regards, Markus ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* RE: Re: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-19 19:39 ` Markus Schuster @ 2010-01-21 17:48 ` Ian Pratt 2010-01-21 17:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk 2010-01-21 19:57 ` Tom Rotenberg 0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Ian Pratt @ 2010-01-21 17:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Markus Schuster, Pasi Kärkkäinen Cc: Ian Pratt, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com > > > That's cool! Is there some comparison with GPLPV drivers in case of > > > stability, speed, features and so on? > > > It looks a bit like future competition between the two driver packs? > > > > Well the major difference is that GPLPV drivers are opensource, > > and the Citrix Windows PV drivers provided in XCP are not. > > Ah, I see - too bad Citrix couldn't open source them :) They're freely distributable in binary form, but they link against various MSFT libraries which have licenses that restrict what can be done with the source. The binaries pass all the MSFT class-specific WHQL tests and are signed so you don't get annoying pop-ups when installing them. I'm not aware of any relative benchmarking having been done, but it would certainly be interesting to know. Ian ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-21 17:48 ` Ian Pratt @ 2010-01-21 17:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk 2010-01-21 18:03 ` Keir Fraser 2010-01-21 21:06 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen 2010-01-21 19:57 ` Tom Rotenberg 1 sibling, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk @ 2010-01-21 17:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ian Pratt; +Cc: Markus Schuster, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 05:48:07PM +0000, Ian Pratt wrote: > > > > That's cool! Is there some comparison with GPLPV drivers in case of > > > > stability, speed, features and so on? > > > > It looks a bit like future competition between the two driver packs? > > > > > > Well the major difference is that GPLPV drivers are opensource, > > > and the Citrix Windows PV drivers provided in XCP are not. > > > > Ah, I see - too bad Citrix couldn't open source them :) > > They're freely distributable in binary form, but they link against various MSFT libraries which have licenses that restrict what can be done with the source. The binaries pass all the MSFT class-specific WHQL tests and are signed so you don't get annoying pop-ups when installing them. They work fine on bare-bone Xen? I remember seeing in the past data about having to add some extra keys in XenStore for this. Is that still the case? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-21 17:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk @ 2010-01-21 18:03 ` Keir Fraser 2010-01-21 20:07 ` Keith Coleman 2010-01-21 21:06 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Keir Fraser @ 2010-01-21 18:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk, Ian Pratt Cc: Markus Schuster, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com On 21/01/2010 17:51, "Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com> wrote: >> They're freely distributable in binary form, but they link against various >> MSFT libraries which have licenses that restrict what can be done with the >> source. The binaries pass all the MSFT class-specific WHQL tests and are >> signed so you don't get annoying pop-ups when installing them. > > They work fine on bare-bone Xen? I remember seeing in the past data > about having to add some extra keys in XenStore for this. Is that still > the case? That's resolved, both in 4.0 and 3.4, I believe. -- Keir ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-21 18:03 ` Keir Fraser @ 2010-01-21 20:07 ` Keith Coleman 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Keith Coleman @ 2010-01-21 20:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Keir Fraser Cc: Markus Schuster, Ian Pratt, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Keir Fraser <keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com> wrote: > On 21/01/2010 17:51, "Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com> wrote: > >>> They're freely distributable in binary form, but they link against various >>> MSFT libraries which have licenses that restrict what can be done with the >>> source. The binaries pass all the MSFT class-specific WHQL tests and are >>> signed so you don't get annoying pop-ups when installing them. >> >> They work fine on bare-bone Xen? I remember seeing in the past data >> about having to add some extra keys in XenStore for this. Is that still >> the case? > > That's resolved, both in 4.0 and 3.4, I believe. That is correct. Keith Coleman ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-21 17:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk 2010-01-21 18:03 ` Keir Fraser @ 2010-01-21 21:06 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen 2010-01-21 21:52 ` Keith Coleman 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Pasi Kärkkäinen @ 2010-01-21 21:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk Cc: Markus Schuster, Ian Pratt, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:51:02PM -0500, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 05:48:07PM +0000, Ian Pratt wrote: > > > > > That's cool! Is there some comparison with GPLPV drivers in case of > > > > > stability, speed, features and so on? > > > > > It looks a bit like future competition between the two driver packs? > > > > > > > > Well the major difference is that GPLPV drivers are opensource, > > > > and the Citrix Windows PV drivers provided in XCP are not. > > > > > > Ah, I see - too bad Citrix couldn't open source them :) > > > > They're freely distributable in binary form, but they link against various MSFT libraries which have licenses that restrict what can be done with the source. The binaries pass all the MSFT class-specific WHQL tests and are signed so you don't get annoying pop-ups when installing them. > > They work fine on bare-bone Xen? I remember seeing in the past data > about having to add some extra keys in XenStore for this. Is that still > the case? > Patches to support XCP Windows PV drivers are already in xen-3.4-testing.hg and xen-unstable.hg. "xend: Add support for XCP Windows PV drivers": http://xenbits.xen.org/xen-unstable.hg?rev/be9b8be3c648 http://xenbits.xen.org/xen-3.4-testing.hg?rev/d4e5058ce390 "Fix clock for XCP Windows PV drivers on restore": http://xenbits.xen.org/xen-unstable.hg?rev/db8a985693f7 http://xenbits.xen.org/xen-3.4-testing.hg?rev/ae60cbc5bb6d I think there's still windows registry hack needed for them to work.. or did the latest xcp release (0.1.1) remove this from the pv drivers? -- Pasi ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-21 21:06 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen @ 2010-01-21 21:52 ` Keith Coleman 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Keith Coleman @ 2010-01-21 21:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Pasi Kärkkäinen Cc: Markus Schuster, Ian Pratt, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@iki.fi> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:51:02PM -0500, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 05:48:07PM +0000, Ian Pratt wrote: >> > > > > That's cool! Is there some comparison with GPLPV drivers in case of >> > > > > stability, speed, features and so on? >> > > > > It looks a bit like future competition between the two driver packs? >> > > > >> > > > Well the major difference is that GPLPV drivers are opensource, >> > > > and the Citrix Windows PV drivers provided in XCP are not. >> > > >> > > Ah, I see - too bad Citrix couldn't open source them :) >> > >> > They're freely distributable in binary form, but they link against various MSFT libraries which have licenses that restrict what can be done with the source. The binaries pass all the MSFT class-specific WHQL tests and are signed so you don't get annoying pop-ups when installing them. >> >> They work fine on bare-bone Xen? I remember seeing in the past data >> about having to add some extra keys in XenStore for this. Is that still >> the case? >> > > Patches to support XCP Windows PV drivers are already in xen-3.4-testing.hg and xen-unstable.hg. > > "xend: Add support for XCP Windows PV drivers": > http://xenbits.xen.org/xen-unstable.hg?rev/be9b8be3c648 > http://xenbits.xen.org/xen-3.4-testing.hg?rev/d4e5058ce390 > > "Fix clock for XCP Windows PV drivers on restore": > http://xenbits.xen.org/xen-unstable.hg?rev/db8a985693f7 > http://xenbits.xen.org/xen-3.4-testing.hg?rev/ae60cbc5bb6d > > I think there's still windows registry hack needed for them to work.. > or did the latest xcp release (0.1.1) remove this from the pv drivers? The registry change is no longer necessary. Keith Coleman ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-21 17:48 ` Ian Pratt 2010-01-21 17:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk @ 2010-01-21 19:57 ` Tom Rotenberg 1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Tom Rotenberg @ 2010-01-21 19:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ian Pratt; +Cc: Markus Schuster, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com So, the community has currently 2 sets of drivers: * The GPL PV drivers, which are less stable, and not as good as the XCP PV drivers (not signed by MS$, etc), but are open, and everyone can change them fix their bugs, support extra-stuff, etc. * The XCP PV drivers, which looks stable, and better, but are closed-source, and u can't fix bugs there, change them for your own use, etc. 1. Is it a good idea, to have the XCP PV drivers closed-source? If u will open-source the XCP drivers, or at-least contribute some of their code (which isn't blocked by MS$ stuff) to the GPL-PV, the community will have one strong and stable PV drivers tree. It will be good for Xen, as other companies, like Red-Hat (KVM) already released the full source of their Windows PV drivers. 2. What is the planned policy about the XCP PV drivers? Tom 2010/1/21 Ian Pratt <Ian.Pratt@eu.citrix.com>: >> > > That's cool! Is there some comparison with GPLPV drivers in case of >> > > stability, speed, features and so on? >> > > It looks a bit like future competition between the two driver packs? >> > >> > Well the major difference is that GPLPV drivers are opensource, >> > and the Citrix Windows PV drivers provided in XCP are not. >> >> Ah, I see - too bad Citrix couldn't open source them :) > > They're freely distributable in binary form, but they link against various MSFT libraries which have licenses that restrict what can be done with the source. The binaries pass all the MSFT class-specific WHQL tests and are signed so you don't get annoying pop-ups when installing them. > > I'm not aware of any relative benchmarking having been done, but it would certainly be interesting to know. > > Ian > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-devel mailing list > Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* RE: [XCP] new version available 2010-01-18 18:13 [XCP] new version available Dave Scott ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2010-01-19 14:36 ` Markus Schuster @ 2010-01-25 23:29 ` Rose, Gregory V [not found] ` <43F901BD926A4E43B106BF17856F07559CEF9E56-osO9UTpF0UQ8Ug9VwtkbtrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org> 3 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Rose, Gregory V @ 2010-01-25 23:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Scott, 'xen-api@lists.xensource.com', 'xen-devel@lists.xensource.com' >-----Original Message----- >From: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-devel- >bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Dave Scott >Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 10:13 AM >To: 'xen-api@lists.xensource.com'; 'xen-devel@lists.xensource.com' >Subject: [Xen-devel] [XCP] new version available > >Hi, > >I've refreshed the Xen Cloud Platform (XCP) .isos on xen.org with a new >development snapshot (labeled version 0.1.1). XCP is a collaborative >effort to build a complete cloud infrastructure platform, complete with >a powerful management stack, standards-based APIs, support for >multi-tenancy and much more. See: > >http://www.xen.org/products/cloud_source.html > I downloaded this version of XCP and now when I try to get to the Xen API through my Firefox browser it doesn't load. With XCP 0.1 I was able to type in the IP address of the XCP Host machine and get a Xen API interface. Is that feature still available? If not, how do I get to the console of my VMs? Thanks, Greg Rose Intel Corp Lan Access Division ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
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* RE: [XCP] new version available [not found] ` <43F901BD926A4E43B106BF17856F07559CEF9E56-osO9UTpF0UQ8Ug9VwtkbtrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org> @ 2010-01-26 10:56 ` Dave Scott [not found] ` <81A73678E76EA642801C8F2E4823AD2143E92238F7-aFusIB7tbcLeU4JHVX8hdHnr0TU713UqXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Dave Scott @ 2010-01-26 10:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Rose, Gregory V', 'xen-api-GuqFBffKawuULHF6PoxzQEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org', 'xen-devel-GuqFBffKawuULHF6PoxzQEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org' > I downloaded this version of XCP and now when I try to get to the Xen > API through my Firefox browser it doesn't load. With XCP 0.1 I was > able to type in the IP address of the XCP Host machine and get a Xen > API interface. > > Is that feature still available? If not, how do I get to the console > of my VMs? Unfortunately a symlink in dom0 went missing. To fix it you need to do: mv /opt/xensource/www /opt/xensource/www.old ln -s /opt/xensource/debug/www /opt/xensource/www The javascript files are all in /opt/xensource/debug/www but the directory being served over HTTP is /opt/xensource/www Sorry for the inconvenience. Dave ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
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* RE: [XCP] new version available [not found] ` <81A73678E76EA642801C8F2E4823AD2143E92238F7-aFusIB7tbcLeU4JHVX8hdHnr0TU713UqXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org> @ 2010-01-26 17:26 ` Rose, Gregory V 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Rose, Gregory V @ 2010-01-26 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Scott, 'xen-api-GuqFBffKawuULHF6PoxzQEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org', 'xen-devel-GuqFBffKawuULHF6PoxzQEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org' There we go! No worries, it's 0.x.x Revision SW after all, one expects these sorts of glitches. Thanks! - Greg >-----Original Message----- >From: Dave Scott [mailto:Dave.Scott-mvvWK6WmYclDPfheJLI6IQ@public.gmane.org] >Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:56 AM >To: Rose, Gregory V; 'xen-api-GuqFBffKawuULHF6PoxzQEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org'; 'xen- >devel-GuqFBffKawuULHF6PoxzQEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org' >Subject: RE: [XCP] new version available > >> I downloaded this version of XCP and now when I try to get to the Xen >> API through my Firefox browser it doesn't load. With XCP 0.1 I was >> able to type in the IP address of the XCP Host machine and get a Xen >> API interface. >> >> Is that feature still available? If not, how do I get to the console >> of my VMs? > >Unfortunately a symlink in dom0 went missing. To fix it you need to do: > >mv /opt/xensource/www /opt/xensource/www.old >ln -s /opt/xensource/debug/www /opt/xensource/www > >The javascript files are all in /opt/xensource/debug/www but the >directory being served over HTTP is /opt/xensource/www > >Sorry for the inconvenience. > >Dave ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
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