From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
rientjes@google.com,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg: handle panic_on_oom=always case
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:45:26 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100217084526.GP5723@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100217150445.1a40201d.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 03:04:45PM +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> tested on mmotm-Feb11.
>
> Balbir-san, Nishimura-san, I want review from both of you.
>
> ==
>
> From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
>
> Now, if panic_on_oom=2, the whole system panics even if the oom happend
> in some special situation (as cpuset, mempolicy....).
> Then, panic_on_oom=2 means painc_on_oom_always.
>
> Now, memcg doesn't check panic_on_oom flag. This patch adds a check.
>
> Maybe someone doubts how it's useful. kdump+panic_on_oom=2 is the
> last tool to investigate what happens in oom-ed system. If a task is killed,
> the sysytem recovers and used memory were freed, there will be few hint
> to know what happnes. In mission critical system, oom should never happen.
> Then, investigation after OOM is very important.
> Then, panic_on_oom=2+kdump is useful to avoid next OOM by knowing
> precise information via snapshot.
No I don't doubt it is useful, and I think this probably is the simplest
and most useful semantic. So thanks for doing this.
I hate to pick nits in a trivial patch but I will anyway:
> TODO:
> - For memcg, it's for isolate system's memory usage, oom-notiifer and
> freeze_at_oom (or rest_at_oom) should be implemented. Then, management
> daemon can do similar jobs (as kdump) in safer way or taking snapshot
> per cgroup.
>
> CC: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> CC: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
> CC: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
> Signed-off-by: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> ---
> Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt | 2 ++
> Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt | 5 ++++-
> mm/oom_kill.c | 2 ++
> 3 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> Index: mmotm-2.6.33-Feb11/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
> ===================================================================
> --- mmotm-2.6.33-Feb11.orig/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
> +++ mmotm-2.6.33-Feb11/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
> @@ -182,6 +182,8 @@ list.
> NOTE: Reclaim does not work for the root cgroup, since we cannot set any
> limits on the root cgroup.
>
> +Note2: When panic_on_oom is set to "2", the whole system will panic.
> +
Maybe:
NOTE2: When panic_on_oom is set to "2", the whole system will panic in
case of an oom event in any cgroup.
> 2. Locking
>
> The memory controller uses the following hierarchy
> Index: mmotm-2.6.33-Feb11/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
> ===================================================================
> --- mmotm-2.6.33-Feb11.orig/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
> +++ mmotm-2.6.33-Feb11/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
> @@ -573,11 +573,14 @@ Because other nodes' memory may be free.
> may be not fatal yet.
>
> If this is set to 2, the kernel panics compulsorily even on the
> -above-mentioned.
> +above-mentioned. Even oom happens under memoyr cgroup, the whole
> +system panics.
memory
>
> The default value is 0.
> 1 and 2 are for failover of clustering. Please select either
> according to your policy of failover.
> +2 seems too strong but panic_on_oom=2+kdump gives you very strong
> +tool to investigate a system which should never cause OOM.
I don't think you need say 2 seems too strong because as you rightfully
say, it has real uses. The hint about using it to investigate OOM
conditions is good though.
>
> =============================================================
>
> Index: mmotm-2.6.33-Feb11/mm/oom_kill.c
> ===================================================================
> --- mmotm-2.6.33-Feb11.orig/mm/oom_kill.c
> +++ mmotm-2.6.33-Feb11/mm/oom_kill.c
> @@ -471,6 +471,8 @@ void mem_cgroup_out_of_memory(struct mem
> unsigned long points = 0;
> struct task_struct *p;
>
> + if (sysctl_panic_on_oom == 2)
> + panic("out of memory(memcg). panic_on_oom is selected.\n");
> read_lock(&tasklist_lock);
> retry:
> p = select_bad_process(&points, mem);
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
rientjes@google.com,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg: handle panic_on_oom=always case
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:45:26 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100217084526.GP5723@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100217150445.1a40201d.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 03:04:45PM +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> tested on mmotm-Feb11.
>
> Balbir-san, Nishimura-san, I want review from both of you.
>
> ==
>
> From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
>
> Now, if panic_on_oom=2, the whole system panics even if the oom happend
> in some special situation (as cpuset, mempolicy....).
> Then, panic_on_oom=2 means painc_on_oom_always.
>
> Now, memcg doesn't check panic_on_oom flag. This patch adds a check.
>
> Maybe someone doubts how it's useful. kdump+panic_on_oom=2 is the
> last tool to investigate what happens in oom-ed system. If a task is killed,
> the sysytem recovers and used memory were freed, there will be few hint
> to know what happnes. In mission critical system, oom should never happen.
> Then, investigation after OOM is very important.
> Then, panic_on_oom=2+kdump is useful to avoid next OOM by knowing
> precise information via snapshot.
No I don't doubt it is useful, and I think this probably is the simplest
and most useful semantic. So thanks for doing this.
I hate to pick nits in a trivial patch but I will anyway:
> TODO:
> - For memcg, it's for isolate system's memory usage, oom-notiifer and
> freeze_at_oom (or rest_at_oom) should be implemented. Then, management
> daemon can do similar jobs (as kdump) in safer way or taking snapshot
> per cgroup.
>
> CC: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> CC: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
> CC: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
> Signed-off-by: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> ---
> Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt | 2 ++
> Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt | 5 ++++-
> mm/oom_kill.c | 2 ++
> 3 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> Index: mmotm-2.6.33-Feb11/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
> ===================================================================
> --- mmotm-2.6.33-Feb11.orig/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
> +++ mmotm-2.6.33-Feb11/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
> @@ -182,6 +182,8 @@ list.
> NOTE: Reclaim does not work for the root cgroup, since we cannot set any
> limits on the root cgroup.
>
> +Note2: When panic_on_oom is set to "2", the whole system will panic.
> +
Maybe:
NOTE2: When panic_on_oom is set to "2", the whole system will panic in
case of an oom event in any cgroup.
> 2. Locking
>
> The memory controller uses the following hierarchy
> Index: mmotm-2.6.33-Feb11/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
> ===================================================================
> --- mmotm-2.6.33-Feb11.orig/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
> +++ mmotm-2.6.33-Feb11/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
> @@ -573,11 +573,14 @@ Because other nodes' memory may be free.
> may be not fatal yet.
>
> If this is set to 2, the kernel panics compulsorily even on the
> -above-mentioned.
> +above-mentioned. Even oom happens under memoyr cgroup, the whole
> +system panics.
memory
>
> The default value is 0.
> 1 and 2 are for failover of clustering. Please select either
> according to your policy of failover.
> +2 seems too strong but panic_on_oom=2+kdump gives you very strong
> +tool to investigate a system which should never cause OOM.
I don't think you need say 2 seems too strong because as you rightfully
say, it has real uses. The hint about using it to investigate OOM
conditions is good though.
>
> =============================================================
>
> Index: mmotm-2.6.33-Feb11/mm/oom_kill.c
> ===================================================================
> --- mmotm-2.6.33-Feb11.orig/mm/oom_kill.c
> +++ mmotm-2.6.33-Feb11/mm/oom_kill.c
> @@ -471,6 +471,8 @@ void mem_cgroup_out_of_memory(struct mem
> unsigned long points = 0;
> struct task_struct *p;
>
> + if (sysctl_panic_on_oom == 2)
> + panic("out of memory(memcg). panic_on_oom is selected.\n");
> read_lock(&tasklist_lock);
> retry:
> p = select_bad_process(&points, mem);
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-17 8:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-17 6:04 [PATCH] memcg: handle panic_on_oom=always case KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17 6:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17 6:50 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-02-17 6:50 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-02-17 8:45 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2010-02-17 8:45 ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-17 8:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17 8:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17 9:04 ` [PATCH] memcg: handle panic_on_oom=always case v2 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17 9:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
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