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From: Lennart Poettering <mznyfn@0pointer.de>
To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: Verifying mixer dB data/Invalid dB data from USB cards, especially Aureon 5.1 MkII
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:19:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100217151941.GB4181@tango.0pointer.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f3252891002161930i25d411ap6c0b9ad8977f336e@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 17.02.10 11:30, Raymond Yau (superquad.vortex2@gmail.com) wrote:

> 
> 2010/2/16 Lennart Poettering <mznyfn@0pointer.de>
> 
> > On Tue, 16.02.10 09:08, Clemens Ladisch (clemens@ladisch.de) wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > > Getting back to the invalid dB data from the USB cards: the question
> > > > is whether the USB descriptor data is badly parsed, and the dB
> > > > mismatch hence systematic for USB cards,
> > >
> > > USB descriptors use units of 1/256th dB, while ALSA uses 1/100th dB.
> > > When the level is computed from the minimum plus a multiple of the step
> > > size, rounding errors add up considerately.
> > >
> > > ALSA 1.0.21 (kernel 2.6.32) added a different TLV type that reports the
> > > range with the min/max values to minimize those rounding errors.
> >
> > I am really sure that the discrepancy I measure with the Aureon is way
> > beyond rounding errors.
> >
> > Lennart
> >
> >
> if the program use a format FLOAT_LE  which is not supported by the hardware
> and need to use plughw , you have already added error ( resampling and
> format conversion ) to the result

That numeric noise is neglible in contrast to the big (20dB or so?)
discrepancy I am seeing here.

Lennart

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Lennart Poettering                        Red Hat, Inc.
lennart [at] poettering [dot] net
http://0pointer.net/lennart/           GnuPG 0x1A015CC4

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-17 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-15 19:24 Verifying mixer dB data/Invalid dB data from USB cards, especially Aureon 5.1 MkII Lennart Poettering
2010-02-16  8:08 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-02-16  8:24   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-16 14:32     ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-16 14:40       ` Mark Brown
2010-02-16 15:40         ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-16 15:49           ` Mark Brown
2010-02-16 16:29           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-16 21:07             ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-16 22:39               ` Mark Brown
2010-02-16 22:42                 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-16 23:38                   ` Mark Brown
2010-02-16 23:56                     ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17 11:17                       ` Mark Brown
2010-02-17 13:01                         ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17 13:15                           ` Mads Kiilerich
2010-02-17 11:55                       ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-02-17 13:06                         ` Mark Brown
2010-03-20  7:58                         ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-18  1:48                       ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-18  2:37                         ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-18  6:15                           ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-18 10:11                             ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-02-18 18:13                             ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-19  8:17                               ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-19  9:40                                 ` Mark Brown
2010-02-19 10:57                                 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-19 15:13                                   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-21  3:49                                     ` Raymond Yau
     [not found]                                       ` <20100221193933.GA31800@tango.0pointer.de>
2010-02-23  4:47                                         ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-23 22:20                                           ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-24  1:52                                             ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-28  7:32                                             ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-23  5:12                                         ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-23  8:43                                         ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-21  4:01                                     ` Raymond Yau
     [not found]                                       ` <20100221192951.GD30380@tango.0pointer.de>
2010-02-23 10:08                                         ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-02-23 12:46                                           ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-23 22:32                                           ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-24  0:57                                             ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-24  9:00                                             ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-02-24 11:49                                               ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-24 12:07                                               ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-24  1:12                                           ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-24  3:49                                           ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-20  8:38                                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-25  3:34                                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-19 11:47                                 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-02-19 15:10                                   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-20  8:41                                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-24  7:30                                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-25 13:14                               ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-25  3:51                           ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-26  3:17                       ` Raymond Yau
2010-03-01  4:21                       ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-16 23:47                   ` Eliot Blennerhassett
2010-02-17  0:10                     ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17  0:43                       ` Mark Brown
2010-02-17  0:52                       ` Eliot Blennerhassett
2010-02-17 11:50                         ` Mark Brown
2010-02-17  9:04                       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-17 12:06                         ` Mark Brown
2010-02-17 13:15                           ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17 13:32                             ` Mark Brown
2010-02-17 13:06                         ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17 13:55                           ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-02-17 14:12                             ` Mark Brown
2010-02-17 14:35                             ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17 16:17                               ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-02-26  9:38                             ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-17  7:37                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-18  2:11                     ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-26  0:45               ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-20  7:24             ` Raymond Yau
2010-03-26  4:26             ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-16 21:48           ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-02-17  8:08             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-06-14  3:30         ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-16 16:09       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-16 14:26   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-17  3:30     ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-17 15:19       ` Lennart Poettering [this message]
2010-03-08  9:06         ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-16  8:32 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-16 10:36   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-02-17  3:44 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-17 12:54   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-26  5:18 ` Raymond Yau
2010-02-27  1:07 ` Raymond Yau
2010-03-01  0:51 ` Raymond Yau
2010-06-24 22:51 ` Raymond Yau

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