From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: quintela@redhat.com, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kraxel@redhat.com, amit.shah@redhat.com,
Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCHv2 10/12] tap: add vhost/vhostfd options
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:12:47 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100302161247.GA25371@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B8AD8D4.7070002@codemonkey.ws>
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 02:57:56PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 02/28/2010 11:19 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>Both have security implications so I think it's important that they
> >>be addressed. Otherwise, I'm pretty happy with how things are.
> >Care suggesting some solutions?
>
> The obvious thing to do would be to use the memory notifier in vhost
> to keep track of whenever something remaps the ring's memory region
> and if that happens, issue an ioctl to vhost to change the location
> of the ring. Also, you would need to merge the vhost slot
> management code with the KVM slot management code.
There are no security implications as long as vhost uses the qemu
process mappings.
But your point is valid.
> I'm sympathetic to your arguments though. As qemu is today, the
> above is definitely the right thing to do. But ram is always ram
> and ram always has a fixed (albeit non-linear) mapping within a
> guest. We can probably be smarter in qemu.
>
> There are areas of MMIO/ROM address space that *sometimes* end up
> behaving like ram, but that's a different case. The one other case
> to consider is ram hot add/remove in which case, ram may be removed
> or added (but it's location will never change during its lifetime).
>
> Here's what I'll propose, and I'd really like to hear what Paul
> think about it before we start down this path.
>
> I think we should add a new API that's:
>
> void cpu_ram_add(target_phys_addr_t start, ram_addr_t size);
>
> This API would do two things. It would call qemu_ram_alloc() and
> cpu_register_physical_memory() just as code does today. It would
> also add this region into a new table.
>
> There would be:
>
> void *cpu_ram_map(target_phys_addr_t start, ram_addr_t *size);
> void cpu_ram_unmap(void *mem);
>
> These calls would use this new table to lookup ram addresses. These
> mappings are valid as long as the guest is executed. Within the
> table, each region would have a reference count. When it comes time
> to do hot add/remove, we would wait to remove a region until the
> reference count went to zero to avoid unmapping during DMA.
>
> cpu_ram_add() never gets called with overlapping regions. We'll
> modify cpu_register_physical_memory() to ensure that a ram mapping
> is never changed after initial registration.
What is the difference between your proposal and
cpu_physical_memory_map?
What i'd like to see is binding between cpu_physical_memory_map and qdev
devices, so that you can use different host memory mappings for device
context and for CPU context (and provide the possibility for, say, map
a certain memory region as read-only).
> vhost no longer needs to bother keeping the dynamic table up to date
> so it removes all of the slot management code from vhost. KVM still
> needs the code to handle rom/ram mappings but we can take care of
> that next. virtio-net's userspace code can do the same thing as
> vhost and only map the ring once which should be a big performance
> improvement.
Pinning the host virtual addresses as you propose reduces flexibility.
See above about different mappings for DMA/CPU contexes.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-02 16:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-25 18:27 [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 00/12] vhost-net: upstream integration Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 05/12] virtio: add APIs for queue fields Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:49 ` Blue Swirl
2010-02-26 14:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 8:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 09/12] vhost: vhost net support Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-02-26 14:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-26 14:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 14:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 14:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-26 15:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-27 19:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 1:59 ` Paul Brook
2010-02-28 10:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 12:45 ` Paul Brook
2010-02-28 14:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 15:23 ` Paul Brook
2010-02-28 15:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 16:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 02/12] kvm: add API to set ioeventfd Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 17:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 04/12] virtio: add notifier support Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 01/12] tap: add interface to get device fd Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 07/12] virtio: move typedef to qemu-common Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 10/12] tap: add vhost/vhostfd options Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 14:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-26 15:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-27 19:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 16:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 17:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 20:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 21:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 22:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 22:39 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-01 19:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-01 21:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 9:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-02 14:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 14:33 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-02 14:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 14:55 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-02 15:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 15:53 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-02 15:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-02 16:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 16:21 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-03-02 16:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2010-03-02 16:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 17:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-02 18:00 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-03-02 18:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 22:41 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-03 14:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-03 14:43 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-03 16:24 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 11/12] tap: add API to retrieve vhost net header Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 06/12] virtio: add set_status callback Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 08/12] virtio-pci: fill in notifier support Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 20:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 03/12] notifier: event notifier implementation Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 19:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 12/12] virtio-net: vhost net support Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:49 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCHv2 00/12] vhost-net: upstream integration Anthony Liguori
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