From: Andrey Borzenkov <arvidjaar@mail.ru>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
linux-input@vger.kernel.org, USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Problems with remote-wakeup settings
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 04:36:18 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201003060736.18555.arvidjaar@mail.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1003052314130.10381-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
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On Saturday 06 of March 2010 07:16:20 Alan Stern wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Friday 05 March 2010, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> > > Am Freitag, 5. März 2010 21:59:31 schrieben Sie:
> > > > > I guess it's better if drivers don't set should_wakeup if
> > > > > unsure, but of course that's impossible to enforce.
> > > >
> > > > That's the real question. Ideally, drivers won't touch
> > > > should_wakeup. How do we get there from here?
> > >
> > > Enable it only for devices specifically designed for wakeup, that
> > > is keyboards, power buttons and WoL, perhaps also mice and
> > > modems. Are we far away from that?
> >
> > I don't think we're very far from that.
> >
> > Mice are known dangerous, especially the USB ones, though.
>
> I agree, especially for desktop systems. You don't want the system
> to wake up merely because you happened to jostle the mouse. That
> happened to me just a few days ago (and it was a PS/2 mouse, not
> USB).
I remember, my old desktop had BIOS option to wake up on mouse click
(and it had PS/2 mouse either) ignoring mouse move. I actually found it
useful.
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Cc: Alan Stern
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Subject: Re: Problems with remote-wakeup settings
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 07:36:18 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201003060736.18555.arvidjaar@mail.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1003052314130.10381-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
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On Saturday 06 of March 2010 07:16:20 Alan Stern wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Friday 05 March 2010, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> > > Am Freitag, 5. März 2010 21:59:31 schrieben Sie:
> > > > > I guess it's better if drivers don't set should_wakeup if
> > > > > unsure, but of course that's impossible to enforce.
> > > >
> > > > That's the real question. Ideally, drivers won't touch
> > > > should_wakeup. How do we get there from here?
> > >
> > > Enable it only for devices specifically designed for wakeup, that
> > > is keyboards, power buttons and WoL, perhaps also mice and
> > > modems. Are we far away from that?
> >
> > I don't think we're very far from that.
> >
> > Mice are known dangerous, especially the USB ones, though.
>
> I agree, especially for desktop systems. You don't want the system
> to wake up merely because you happened to jostle the mouse. That
> happened to me just a few days ago (and it was a PS/2 mouse, not
> USB).
I remember, my old desktop had BIOS option to wake up on mouse click
(and it had PS/2 mouse either) ignoring mouse move. I actually found it
useful.
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From: Andrey Borzenkov <arvidjaar@mail.ru>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
"Linux-pm mailing list" <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
linux-input@vger.kernel.org, USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Problems with remote-wakeup settings
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 07:36:18 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201003060736.18555.arvidjaar@mail.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1003052314130.10381-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
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On Saturday 06 of March 2010 07:16:20 Alan Stern wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Friday 05 March 2010, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> > > Am Freitag, 5. März 2010 21:59:31 schrieben Sie:
> > > > > I guess it's better if drivers don't set should_wakeup if
> > > > > unsure, but of course that's impossible to enforce.
> > > >
> > > > That's the real question. Ideally, drivers won't touch
> > > > should_wakeup. How do we get there from here?
> > >
> > > Enable it only for devices specifically designed for wakeup, that
> > > is keyboards, power buttons and WoL, perhaps also mice and
> > > modems. Are we far away from that?
> >
> > I don't think we're very far from that.
> >
> > Mice are known dangerous, especially the USB ones, though.
>
> I agree, especially for desktop systems. You don't want the system
> to wake up merely because you happened to jostle the mouse. That
> happened to me just a few days ago (and it was a PS/2 mouse, not
> USB).
I remember, my old desktop had BIOS option to wake up on mouse click
(and it had PS/2 mouse either) ignoring mouse move. I actually found it
useful.
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Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-05 16:23 Problems with remote-wakeup settings Alan Stern
2010-03-05 16:23 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-05 16:23 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-05 20:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-05 20:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-05 20:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-05 20:59 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-05 20:59 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-05 20:59 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-05 20:59 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-05 21:08 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-03-05 21:08 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-03-05 21:08 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-03-05 21:08 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-03-05 22:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-05 22:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-05 22:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-06 4:16 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-05 22:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-05 21:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-05 21:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-05 21:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-06 4:34 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-06 4:16 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-06 4:16 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-06 4:16 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-06 4:36 ` Andrey Borzenkov [this message]
2010-03-06 4:36 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2010-03-06 4:36 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2010-03-06 4:36 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2010-03-06 4:34 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-06 4:34 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-06 4:34 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-06 20:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-06 20:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-06 21:05 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-06 21:05 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-06 21:05 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-06 21:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-06 21:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-06 21:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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