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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Dmitry Monakhov <dmonakhov@openvz.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] vfs: Add additional owner identifier
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:51:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100311185135.GA27145@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87hbonj942.fsf@openvz.org>

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 04:11:57PM +0300, Dmitry Monakhov wrote:
> Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 09:34:33PM +0300, Dmitry Monakhov wrote:
> >> This patch add project inode identifier. Project ID may be used as
> >> auxiliary owner specifier in addition to standard uid/gid.
> >
> > There's really no reason to make this a config option.
> Project id feature is not likely to be widely used (i hope only 
> at the beginning). Personally this is not bad to avoid config option.
> At least we will have many new users for free. But I predict
> many angry voices against enabling this feature by default.

How would those "angry voices" notice this feature?

--b.

> Look, we even have CONFIG_BLOCK option at the time when this option
> is enabled in 99.99% of systems.
> 
> Let's ask Jan an Al:
> Will they accept genetic projectid support without appropriate config option?
> >  And xattrs
> > are a rather bad interfaces to this, so even if a filesystem has to
> > resort to implement the project ID this way, this should be hidden
> > inside the filesystem.
> Only one question "Why not?".
> I've tried to count pro and contra options.
> *PRO*
>  1) xattr interface already available, we don't have to invent a new one
>  2) xattrs are supported by most of backup tools and other fs-related
>     tools.
>  3) xattr interface is rather simple and flexible. Filesystem is free
>     to store it's projectid whenever it likes to, xattr is just an
>     manipulation interface.
> *CONTRA*
>  1) XATTR_CREATE/XATTR_REPLACE is useless for project id since
>     inode is belongs to default project (id == 0)
> 
>  
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-11 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-04 18:34 [PATCH 0/5] RFC: introduce extended inode owner identifier v5 Dmitry Monakhov
2010-03-04 18:34 ` [PATCH 1/5] vfs: Add additional owner identifier Dmitry Monakhov
2010-03-04 18:34   ` [PATCH 2/5] quota: Implement project id support for generic quota Dmitry Monakhov
2010-03-04 18:34     ` [PATCH 3/5] ext4: Implement project ID support for ext4 filesystem Dmitry Monakhov
2010-03-04 18:34       ` [PATCH 4/5] ext4: add isolated project support Dmitry Monakhov
2010-03-04 18:34         ` [PATCH 5/5] ext4: add project quota support Dmitry Monakhov
2010-03-04 20:07         ` [PATCH 4/5] ext4: add isolated project support Jan Kara
2010-03-04 20:34           ` Dmitry Monakhov
2010-03-11 12:07         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-11 12:06       ` [PATCH 3/5] ext4: Implement project ID support for ext4 filesystem Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-11 13:30         ` Dmitry Monakhov
2010-03-11 19:54           ` Andreas Dilger
2010-03-11 22:01             ` tytso
2010-03-12  9:32               ` Dmitry Monakhov
2010-03-12 20:07                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-03-11 12:03     ` [PATCH 2/5] quota: Implement project id support for generic quota Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-11 13:17       ` Dmitry Monakhov
2010-03-11 12:01   ` [PATCH 1/5] vfs: Add additional owner identifier Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-11 13:11     ` Dmitry Monakhov
2010-03-11 18:51       ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2010-03-11 19:40         ` Andreas Dilger
2010-03-12  8:47           ` Dmitry Monakhov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-03-18 14:02 [PATCH 0/5] RFC: introduce extended inode owner identifier v6 Dmitry Monakhov
2010-03-18 14:02 ` [PATCH 1/5] vfs: Add additional owner identifier Dmitry Monakhov

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