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From: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Muli Ben-Yehuda <muli@il.ibm.com>,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, aliguori@us.ibm.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	jan.kiszka@siemens.com, agraf@suse.de, agl@us.ibm.com,
	Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
	Ben-Ami Yassour1 <benami@il.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Ideas wiki for GSoC 2010
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:24:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100315132448.GF13108@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B9E320E.7040605@redhat.com>

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 03:11:42PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 03/15/2010 03:03 PM, Joerg Roedel wrote:
>>
>>>> I will add another project - iommu emulation.  Could be very useful
>>>> for doing device assignment to nested guests, which could make
>>>> testing a lot easier.
>>>>        
>>> Our experiments show that nested device assignment is pretty much
>>> required for I/O performance in nested scenarios.
>>>      
>> Really? I did a small test with virtio-blk in a nested guest (disk read
>> with dd, so not a real benchmark) and got a reasonable read-performance
>> of around 25MB/s from the disk in the l2-guest.
>>
>>    
>
> Your guest wasn't doing a zillion VMREADs and VMWRITEs every exit.
>
> I plan to reduce VMREAD/VMWRITE overhead for kvm, but not much we can do  
> for other guests.

Does it matter for the ept-on-ept case? The initial patchset of
nested-vmx implemented it and they reported a performance drop of around
12% between levels which is reasonable. So I expected the loss of
io-performance for l2 also reasonable in this case. My small measurement
was also done using npt-on-npt.

	Joerg


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Muli Ben-Yehuda <muli@il.ibm.com>,
	agraf@suse.de, aliguori@us.ibm.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	jan.kiszka@siemens.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	agl@us.ibm.com, Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
	Ben-Ami Yassour1 <benami@il.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Ideas wiki for GSoC 2010
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:24:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100315132448.GF13108@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B9E320E.7040605@redhat.com>

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 03:11:42PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 03/15/2010 03:03 PM, Joerg Roedel wrote:
>>
>>>> I will add another project - iommu emulation.  Could be very useful
>>>> for doing device assignment to nested guests, which could make
>>>> testing a lot easier.
>>>>        
>>> Our experiments show that nested device assignment is pretty much
>>> required for I/O performance in nested scenarios.
>>>      
>> Really? I did a small test with virtio-blk in a nested guest (disk read
>> with dd, so not a real benchmark) and got a reasonable read-performance
>> of around 25MB/s from the disk in the l2-guest.
>>
>>    
>
> Your guest wasn't doing a zillion VMREADs and VMWRITEs every exit.
>
> I plan to reduce VMREAD/VMWRITE overhead for kvm, but not much we can do  
> for other guests.

Does it matter for the ept-on-ept case? The initial patchset of
nested-vmx implemented it and they reported a performance drop of around
12% between levels which is reasonable. So I expected the loss of
io-performance for l2 also reasonable in this case. My small measurement
was also done using npt-on-npt.

	Joerg

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-15 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-10 21:30 Ideas wiki for GSoC 2010 Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-10 21:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-11  7:55 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-11  7:55   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-11  9:43   ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-11  9:43     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-11 11:25     ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-11 11:25       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2010-03-11 11:54       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-11 11:54         ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-11 11:56         ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-11 11:56           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2010-03-11 11:58           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-11 11:58             ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-11 12:03             ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-11 12:03               ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2010-03-11 12:15               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-11 12:15                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-12 10:49                 ` [Android-virt] " Christoffer Dall
2010-03-12 10:49                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoffer Dall
2010-03-12 12:32                   ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-12 12:32                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-11 19:06               ` [Qemu-devel] " Cam Macdonell
2010-03-11 19:06                 ` Cam Macdonell
2010-03-11 12:09       ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-11 12:09         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-11 13:19         ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-11 13:19           ` [Qemu-devel] " Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-13  3:13           ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2010-03-13  3:13             ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2010-03-11 13:16       ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-11 13:16         ` [Qemu-devel] " Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-12 10:47       ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-12 10:47         ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-11 12:59     ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-11 12:59       ` [Qemu-devel] " Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-11 13:00       ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-11 13:00         ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2010-03-11 13:21         ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-11 13:21           ` [Qemu-devel] " Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-11 22:59   ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-11 22:59     ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-12  9:48     ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-12  9:48       ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-12  9:59       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-12  9:59         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-03-11 12:26 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-11 12:26   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-11 13:09 ` [Qemu-devel] " Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2010-03-11 13:09   ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2010-03-12 15:11 ` Adam Litke
2010-03-12 15:11   ` Adam Litke
2010-03-12 15:22   ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-12 15:22     ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-12 15:38     ` Adam Litke
2010-03-12 15:56       ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-12 16:36         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-12 16:36           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-12 17:35           ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-12 17:35             ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-15 12:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 12:25   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 12:38   ` Joerg Roedel
2010-03-15 12:38     ` Joerg Roedel
2010-03-15 12:42     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 12:42       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 13:14       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-15 13:14         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-15 15:59         ` Joerg Roedel
2010-03-15 15:59           ` Joerg Roedel
2010-03-15 12:53   ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2010-03-15 12:53     ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2010-03-15 13:03     ` Joerg Roedel
2010-03-15 13:03       ` Joerg Roedel
2010-03-15 13:11       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 13:11         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 13:23         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-15 13:23           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-15 15:06           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 15:06             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16  0:20             ` Jason
2010-03-16  6:12               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 16:33                 ` Jason
2010-03-16 16:46                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16  1:21             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16  1:21               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16  5:50               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16  5:50                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 13:24         ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
2010-03-15 13:24           ` Joerg Roedel
2010-03-15 13:55           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-15 13:55             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-15 14:18       ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2010-03-15 14:18         ` Muli Ben-Yehuda

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