From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mmotm 0/5] memcg: per cgroup dirty limit (v6)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:48:03 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100315144803.GG21127@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100312112433.689c7294.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:24:33AM +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:14:11 +0900
> Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:42:44 +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:25:00 +0900
> > > KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > > > Then, it's not problem that check pc->mem_cgroup is root cgroup or not
> > > > without spinlock.
> > > > ==
> > > > void mem_cgroup_update_stat(struct page *page, int idx, bool charge)
> > > > {
> > > > pc = lookup_page_cgroup(page);
> > > > if (unlikely(!pc) || mem_cgroup_is_root(pc->mem_cgroup))
> > > > return;
> > > > ...
> > > > }
> > > > ==
> > > > This can be handle in the same logic of "lock failure" path.
> > > > And we just do ignore accounting.
> > > >
> > > > There are will be no spinlocks....to do more than this,
> > > > I think we have to use "struct page" rather than "struct page_cgroup".
> > > >
> > > Hmm..like this ? The bad point of this patch is that this will corrupt FILE_MAPPED
> > > status in root cgroup. This kind of change is not very good.
> > > So, one way is to use this kind of function only for new parameters. Hmm.
> > IMHO, if we disable accounting file stats in root cgroup, it would be better
> > not to show them in memory.stat to avoid confusing users.
> agreed.
>
> > But, hmm, I think accounting them in root cgroup isn't so meaningless.
> > Isn't making mem_cgroup_has_dirty_limit() return false in case of root cgroup enough?
> >
> The problem is spinlock overhead.
>
> IMHO, there are 2 excuse for "not accounting" in root cgroup
> 1. Low overhead is always appreciated.
> 2. Root's statistics can be obtained by "total - sum of children".
>
IIUC, Total sum of children works only if user_hierarchy=1? At the same time
it does not work if there tasks in root cgroup and not in children group.
Vivek
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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mmotm 0/5] memcg: per cgroup dirty limit (v6)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:48:03 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100315144803.GG21127@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100312112433.689c7294.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:24:33AM +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:14:11 +0900
> Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:42:44 +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:25:00 +0900
> > > KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > > > Then, it's not problem that check pc->mem_cgroup is root cgroup or not
> > > > without spinlock.
> > > > ==
> > > > void mem_cgroup_update_stat(struct page *page, int idx, bool charge)
> > > > {
> > > > pc = lookup_page_cgroup(page);
> > > > if (unlikely(!pc) || mem_cgroup_is_root(pc->mem_cgroup))
> > > > return;
> > > > ...
> > > > }
> > > > ==
> > > > This can be handle in the same logic of "lock failure" path.
> > > > And we just do ignore accounting.
> > > >
> > > > There are will be no spinlocks....to do more than this,
> > > > I think we have to use "struct page" rather than "struct page_cgroup".
> > > >
> > > Hmm..like this ? The bad point of this patch is that this will corrupt FILE_MAPPED
> > > status in root cgroup. This kind of change is not very good.
> > > So, one way is to use this kind of function only for new parameters. Hmm.
> > IMHO, if we disable accounting file stats in root cgroup, it would be better
> > not to show them in memory.stat to avoid confusing users.
> agreed.
>
> > But, hmm, I think accounting them in root cgroup isn't so meaningless.
> > Isn't making mem_cgroup_has_dirty_limit() return false in case of root cgroup enough?
> >
> The problem is spinlock overhead.
>
> IMHO, there are 2 excuse for "not accounting" in root cgroup
> 1. Low overhead is always appreciated.
> 2. Root's statistics can be obtained by "total - sum of children".
>
IIUC, Total sum of children works only if user_hierarchy=1? At the same time
it does not work if there tasks in root cgroup and not in children group.
Vivek
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2010-03-09 23:00 [PATCH -mmotm 0/5] memcg: per cgroup dirty limit (v6) Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` [PATCH -mmotm 1/5] memcg: disable irq at page cgroup lock Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` [PATCH -mmotm 2/5] memcg: dirty memory documentation Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` [PATCH -mmotm 3/5] page_cgroup: introduce file cache flags Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` [PATCH -mmotm 4/5] memcg: dirty pages accounting and limiting infrastructure Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-10 22:23 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-10 22:23 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20100310222338.GB3009-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-11 22:27 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-11 22:27 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-11 22:27 ` Andrea Righi
[not found] ` <1268175636-4673-5-git-send-email-arighi-vWjgImWzx8FBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-10 22:23 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <1268175636-4673-1-git-send-email-arighi-vWjgImWzx8FBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-09 23:00 ` [PATCH -mmotm 1/5] memcg: disable irq at page cgroup lock Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` [PATCH -mmotm 2/5] memcg: dirty memory documentation Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` [PATCH -mmotm 3/5] page_cgroup: introduce file cache flags Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` [PATCH -mmotm 4/5] memcg: dirty pages accounting and limiting infrastructure Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` [PATCH -mmotm 5/5] memcg: dirty pages instrumentation Andrea Righi
2010-03-11 0:39 ` [PATCH -mmotm 0/5] memcg: per cgroup dirty limit (v6) KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-11 18:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-09 23:00 ` [PATCH -mmotm 5/5] memcg: dirty pages instrumentation Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-10 1:36 ` [PATCH -mmotm 0/5] memcg: per cgroup dirty limit (v6) Balbir Singh
2010-03-10 1:36 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-11 0:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-11 0:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <20100311093913.07c9ca8a.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-11 1:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-11 22:23 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-11 1:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-11 1:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-11 9:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-11 9:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-11 9:25 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-11 9:25 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-11 9:42 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-11 9:42 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-11 22:20 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-11 22:20 ` Andrea Righi
[not found] ` <20100311184244.6735076a.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-11 22:20 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-12 1:14 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-12 1:14 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-12 1:14 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-12 2:24 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-12 2:24 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-15 14:48 ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2010-03-15 14:48 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20100312112433.689c7294.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-15 14:48 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-12 10:07 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-12 10:07 ` Andrea Righi
[not found] ` <20100312101411.b2639128.nishimura-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-12 2:24 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-12 10:07 ` Andrea Righi
[not found] ` <20100311182500.0f3ba994.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-11 9:42 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-11 15:03 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-11 15:03 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-11 15:03 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-11 23:27 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-11 23:27 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-11 23:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-11 23:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-11 23:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-12 10:01 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-12 10:01 ` Andrea Righi
[not found] ` <20100312085244.98e48991.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-12 10:01 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-15 14:16 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-15 14:16 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-15 14:16 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-11 23:42 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-11 23:42 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <20100312084230.850f331d.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-12 0:33 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-15 14:38 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-12 0:33 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-12 0:33 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-15 14:38 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-15 14:38 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20100315143841.GE21127-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-17 22:32 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-17 22:32 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-17 22:32 ` Andrea Righi
[not found] ` <20100311150307.GC29246-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-11 23:27 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-11 23:42 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-11 9:25 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <20100311101726.f58d24e9.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-11 9:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-11 22:23 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-11 22:23 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-11 18:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-11 18:07 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20100311180753.GE29246-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-11 23:59 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-11 23:59 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-11 23:59 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-12 0:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-12 0:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-12 0:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <20100312090326.ad07c05c.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-12 9:58 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-12 9:58 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-12 9:58 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-15 14:41 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-15 14:41 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-15 14:41 ` Vivek Goyal
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