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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NFS: Fix RCU warnings in nfs_inode_return_delegation_noreclaim() [ver #2]
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:39:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100401143944.GA2472@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <14003.1270122314@redhat.com>

On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 12:45:14PM +0100, David Howells wrote:
> Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > > I think it is incorrectly used.  Given that the rcu_dereference() in:
> > > 
> > > 	if (rcu_dereference(nfsi->delegation) != NULL) {
> > > 		spin_lock(&clp->cl_lock);
> > > 		delegation = nfs_detach_delegation_locked(nfsi, NULL);
> > > 		spin_unlock(&clp->cl_lock);
> > > 		if (delegation != NULL)
> > > 			nfs_do_return_delegation(inode, delegation, 0);
> > > 	}
> > 
> > And nfs_detach_delegation_locked() rechecks nfsi->delegation() under
> > the lock, so this is a legitimate use.
> > 
> > The pointer is not held constant, but any changes will be accounted
> > for and handled correctly.  So I would argue that the pointer value is
> > in fact protected by the recheck-under-lock algorithm used here.
> 
> A legitimate use of what?

A legitimate use of loading an RCU-protected pointer without
smp_read_barrier_depends().  However, I could imagine some situations
where the ACCESS_ONCE() semantics were required -- though in this
particular situation, I am having a hard time seeing how the compiler
could mess us up.  That said, my time on the C++ standards committee
has given me new respect for the perversity of compiler writers.

So you have objected to needless memory barriers.  How do you feel
about possibly needless ACCESS_ONCE() calls?

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-01 14:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-18 13:33 [PATCH] NFS: Fix RCU warnings in nfs_inode_return_delegation_noreclaim() [ver #2] David Howells
     [not found] ` <20100318133302.29754.1584.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-19  2:25   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-19  2:25     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-29 19:02     ` David Howells
2010-03-29 19:21       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-29 20:15         ` David Howells
2010-03-29 20:26           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-03-29 20:26             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-03-29 21:05           ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-29 22:22             ` David Howells
2010-03-29 22:36               ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-29 22:59                 ` David Howells
2010-03-29 23:26                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-30 15:40                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-30 16:39                       ` David Howells
2010-03-30 16:49                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-30 17:04                           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-03-30 17:04                             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-03-30 17:25                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-30 17:25                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-30 23:51                           ` David Howells
2010-03-31  0:08                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-31 14:04                               ` David Howells
2010-03-31 15:16                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-31 17:37                                   ` David Howells
2010-03-31 18:30                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-31 18:32                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-03-31 18:32                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-03-31 22:53                                       ` David Howells
2010-04-01  1:29                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-01 11:45                                           ` David Howells
2010-04-01 14:39                                             ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2010-04-01 14:46                                               ` David Howells
2010-04-05 17:57                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-06  9:30                                                   ` David Howells
2010-04-06 16:14                                                   ` David Howells
2010-04-06 17:29                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-06 19:34                                                       ` David Howells
2010-04-07  0:02                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-07 13:22                                                           ` David Howells
2010-04-07 15:57                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-07 16:35                                                               ` RCU condition checks David Howells
2010-04-07 17:10                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-11 22:57                                                                   ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                                     ` <1271026643.6620.37.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-12 16:47                                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-12 16:47                                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-30 16:37                     ` [PATCH] NFS: Fix RCU warnings in nfs_inode_return_delegation_noreclaim() [ver #2] David Howells
2010-03-30 17:01                       ` Paul E. McKenney

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