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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Richard Kennedy <richard@rsk.demon.co.uk>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] writeback: tracing and wbc->nr_to_write fixes
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:29:04 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100420232904.GA23541@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BCD97C8.6090406@rsk.demon.co.uk>

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 01:02:16PM +0100, Richard Kennedy wrote:
> On 20/04/10 03:41, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > This series contains the initial writeback tracing patches from
> > Jens, as well as the extensions I added to provide visibility into
> > writeback control structures as the are used by the writeback code.
> > The visibility given is sufficient to understand what is happening
> > in the writeback path - what path is writing data, what path is
> > blocking on congestion, etc, and to determine the differences in
> > behaviour for different sync modes and calling contexts. This
> > tracing really needs to be integrated into mainline so that anyone
> > can improve the tracing as they use it to track down problems
> > in our convoluted writeback paths.
> > 
> > The remaining patches are fixes to problems that the new tracing
> > highlighted.
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Thanks for adding tracing to this, it will be really useful.
> 
> The fix to write_cache_pages looks really interesting, I'm going to test
> it on my machine. Maybe it should be a separate patch to get more
> visibility?

I don't see a big need to separate the series at this point. Once
there's been a review and testing we can decide how to push them
into mainline. IMO, the tracing is just as important as the bug
fixes....

> Ext4 also multiplies nr_to_write, so will that need fixing too?

No idea. I don't claim to understand ext4's convoluted delayed
allocation path and all it's constraints, so I guess you'd need to
ask the ext4 developers about that one. After all, with the tracing
they'd be able to see if there is a problem. ;)

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Richard Kennedy <richard@rsk.demon.co.uk>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] writeback: tracing and wbc->nr_to_write fixes
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:29:04 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100420232904.GA23541@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BCD97C8.6090406@rsk.demon.co.uk>

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 01:02:16PM +0100, Richard Kennedy wrote:
> On 20/04/10 03:41, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > This series contains the initial writeback tracing patches from
> > Jens, as well as the extensions I added to provide visibility into
> > writeback control structures as the are used by the writeback code.
> > The visibility given is sufficient to understand what is happening
> > in the writeback path - what path is writing data, what path is
> > blocking on congestion, etc, and to determine the differences in
> > behaviour for different sync modes and calling contexts. This
> > tracing really needs to be integrated into mainline so that anyone
> > can improve the tracing as they use it to track down problems
> > in our convoluted writeback paths.
> > 
> > The remaining patches are fixes to problems that the new tracing
> > highlighted.
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Thanks for adding tracing to this, it will be really useful.
> 
> The fix to write_cache_pages looks really interesting, I'm going to test
> it on my machine. Maybe it should be a separate patch to get more
> visibility?

I don't see a big need to separate the series at this point. Once
there's been a review and testing we can decide how to push them
into mainline. IMO, the tracing is just as important as the bug
fixes....

> Ext4 also multiplies nr_to_write, so will that need fixing too?

No idea. I don't claim to understand ext4's convoluted delayed
allocation path and all it's constraints, so I guess you'd need to
ask the ext4 developers about that one. After all, with the tracing
they'd be able to see if there is a problem. ;)

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-20 23:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-20  2:41 [PATCH 0/4] writeback: tracing and wbc->nr_to_write fixes Dave Chinner
2010-04-20  2:41 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-20  2:41 ` [PATCH 1/4] writeback: initial tracing support Dave Chinner
2010-04-20  2:41   ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-21 15:06   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-05-21 15:06     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-04-20  2:41 ` [PATCH 2/4] writeback: Add tracing to balance_dirty_pages Dave Chinner
2010-04-20  2:41   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-20  2:41 ` [PATCH 3/4] writeback: pay attention to wbc->nr_to_write in write_cache_pages Dave Chinner
2010-04-20  2:41   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-22 19:07   ` Jan Kara
2010-04-22 19:07     ` Jan Kara
2010-04-25  3:33   ` tytso
2010-04-25  3:33     ` tytso
2010-04-25  3:33     ` tytso
2010-04-26  1:49     ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-26  1:49       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-26  1:49       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-26  2:43       ` tytso
2010-04-26  2:43         ` tytso
2010-04-26  2:45         ` tytso
2010-04-26  2:45           ` tytso
2010-04-27  3:30         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-27  3:30           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-29 21:39   ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-29 21:39     ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-30  6:01     ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-04-30  6:01       ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-04-30 19:43       ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-30 19:43         ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-01 19:47         ` tytso
2010-05-01 19:47           ` tytso
2010-04-20  2:41 ` [PATCH 4/4] xfs: remove nr_to_write writeback windup Dave Chinner
2010-04-20  2:41   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-22 19:09   ` Jan Kara
2010-04-22 19:09     ` Jan Kara
2010-04-26  0:46     ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-26  0:46       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-20  3:40 ` [PATCH 5/4] writeback: limit write_cache_pages integrity scanning to current EOF Dave Chinner
2010-04-20  3:40   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-20 23:28   ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-20 23:28     ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-20 23:31     ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-20 23:31       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-22 19:13   ` Jan Kara
2010-04-22 19:13     ` Jan Kara
2010-04-20 12:02 ` [PATCH 0/4] writeback: tracing and wbc->nr_to_write fixes Richard Kennedy
2010-04-20 12:02   ` Richard Kennedy
2010-04-20 23:29   ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2010-04-20 23:29     ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-21 15:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-05-21 15:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-05-22  0:09   ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-22  0:09     ` Dave Chinner

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