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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Cole Robinson <crobinso@redhat.com>,
	clalance@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] Revive -version 'QEMU PC Emulator...'
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 16:02:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100514150255.GN9282@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BED63C5.2040501@codemonkey.ws>

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 09:52:53AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 05/14/2010 09:42 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >
> >It is preferable to query the explicit capability wanted, because
> >version numbers are useless when distros backport features,
> 
> Unless distros add their own release number to the version information 
> and libvirt learns about the features they add.

And features removed / compiled out. eg SDL removed, es1370 sound driver
removed, etc, etc. 

Version numbers are a really bad way to determine availability of
functionality. You end up having to build a giant matrix of features
vs version numbers, which will be outdated the moment its created.

If you want feature X, you need to be able to check for prescense of 
feature X, not infer it from another piece of information that is
only loosely related.

eg, if you want to use a kernel filesystem, you don't perform a check
a kernel version number, because its inevitably wrong. You check 
/proc/filesystems to see if the filesystem is supported.

> I think that's the sanest approach.  Just because a distro backports a 
> feature doesn't mean that it behaves like the upstream version.  libvirt 
> really needs to treat distro packages as separate entities from upstream 
> IMHO.

If a distro changes the semantics of a upstream feature everyone looses
no matter which way you look at it.

Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-14 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-12 20:29 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Revive -version 'QEMU PC Emulator...' Cole Robinson
2010-05-12 20:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2010-05-12 20:48   ` Cole Robinson
2010-05-13  8:35     ` Jes Sorensen
2010-05-13 13:04       ` Cole Robinson
2010-05-13 13:07         ` Jes Sorensen
2010-05-13 13:21           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-05-13 13:38             ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-05-13 14:00             ` Paul Brook
2010-05-13 19:20               ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-13 21:24                 ` Stuart Brady
2010-05-14 13:24           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-14 13:54             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-05-14 14:22               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-14 14:42                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-05-14 14:52                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-14 15:02                     ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2010-05-14 15:08                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-14 13:17     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-14 13:25       ` Daniel P. Berrange

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