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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: "Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>
Cc: Brian Swetland <swetland@google.com>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 7)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 23:14:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201005182314.08761.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTileYiu6pL4eX3lpvpYLuu76A8auZp4xrcDX94BQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tuesday 18 May 2010, Arve Hjønnevåg wrote:
> 2010/5/18 Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>:
> > On Tuesday 18 May 2010, Arve Hjønnevåg wrote:
> >> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> >> > On Monday 17 May 2010, Brian Swetland wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> >> >> > On Monday 17 May 2010, Arve Hjønnevåg wrote:
> >> >> >>
...
> 
> > Now, to make it more "user-friendly", we can simply use
> > queue_delayed_work() with a reasonable delay instead of queue_work() to queue
> > the suspend work (the delay may be configurable via sysfs).
> >
> 
> I can add a delay (and the timeout support code does add a delay as an
> optimization) to the unknown wakeup case, but this does not fix the
> problem of a user turning on opportunistic suspend with a user space
> framework that does not use suspend blockers. If the kernel uses
> suspend blockers to make sure the wakeup event makes it to user space,
> but user space does not block suspend, then the system will suspend
> before the event is processed.

But the user can still manually write to /sys/power/state. :-)

Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-18 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-14  4:11 [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 7) Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11 ` [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11   ` [PATCH 2/8] PM: suspend_block: Add driver to access suspend blockers from user-space Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11     ` [PATCH 3/8] PM: suspend_block: Abort task freezing if a suspend_blocker is active Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11       ` [PATCH 4/8] PM: suspend_block: Add debugfs file Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11         ` [PATCH 5/8] PM: suspend_block: Add suspend_blocker stats Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11           ` [PATCH 6/8] PM: Add suspend blocking work Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11             ` [PATCH 7/8] Input: Block suspend while event queue is not empty Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11               ` [PATCH 8/8] power_supply: Block suspend while power supply change notifications are pending Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11           ` [PATCH 6/8] PM: Add suspend blocking work Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  6:13   ` [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api Paul Walmsley
2010-05-14  6:27   ` Paul Walmsley
2010-05-14  7:14     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18  2:17       ` Paul Walmsley
2010-05-18  3:06         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18  3:34           ` Paul Walmsley
2010-05-18  3:51             ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-19 15:55               ` Paul Walmsley
2010-05-20  0:35                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 13:11   ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-18 13:11   ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-20  9:11     ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-20  9:11     ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-20  9:26       ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-20  9:26       ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-20 22:18         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-21  6:04           ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-21  6:04           ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-27 15:41           ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-27 15:41           ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-20 22:18         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-14 21:08 ` [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 7) Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17  4:50   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-17 19:01     ` Mike Snitzer
2010-05-17 19:01     ` Mike Snitzer
2010-05-17 21:42     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 22:16       ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-17 22:16       ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-18  0:52       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18  0:52         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 16:18         ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-18 16:18         ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-18 16:18         ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-18 18:52           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 18:52           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:04             ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-18 22:29               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:29               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:04             ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-19  0:00           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-19  0:00           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 19:13         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 19:13         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 20:47           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 20:47           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 21:48             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:03               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 22:34                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:34                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:52                   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 23:19                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 23:19                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 23:42                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 23:42                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-19 20:39                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-19 21:34                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-20 22:21                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-20 22:21                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-19 21:34                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-19 20:39                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:52                   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 22:03               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 21:48             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 21:42     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17  4:50   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14 21:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-16 19:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17  4:16   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-17 20:40     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 20:40     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 20:51       ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-17 21:44         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 21:44         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 23:32           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 19:38             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 20:35               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 21:14                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2010-05-18 22:21                   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 22:21                   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 22:56                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 23:06                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 23:06                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-19 20:40                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-19 20:40                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:56                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 21:14                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 20:35               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 19:38             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 23:32           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-17 20:51       ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-17  4:16   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-16 19:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-05-14  4:11 Arve Hjønnevåg

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