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From: Kevin Hilman <khilman@deeprootsystems.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: "Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Greg KH" <gregkh@suse.de>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	"Alan Stern" <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"Brian Swetland" <swetland@google.com>,
	"Daniel Walker" <dwalker@fifo99.com>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Matthew Garrett" <mjg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 7)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 15:16:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sk5qw4vf.fsf@deeprootsystems.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201005172342.52660.rjw@sisk.pl> (Rafael J. Wysocki's message of "Mon\, 17 May 2010 23\:42\:52 +0200")

"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> writes:

> On Monday 17 May 2010, Arve Hjønnevåg wrote:

>> 
>> How about:
>> 
>> PM: Add opportunistic suspend support.
>
> "PM: Opportunistic suspend support" would be sufficient IMO.
>
> Now, I'd start with the motivation.  Like "Power management features present
> in the current mainline kernel are insufficient to get maximum possible energy
> savings on some platforms, such as Android, because ..." (here go explanations
> why this is the case in your opinion).

Yes, this will be helpful.

> Next, "To allow Android and similar platforms to save more energy than they
> currently can save using the mainline kernel, introduce a mechanism by which
> the system is automatically suspended (i.e. put into a system-wide sleep state)
> whenever it's not doing useful work, called opportunistic suspend".

Hopefully, a definition of "useful" will be given here, including by
what standards on-going work is determined not to be useful.

Kevin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-05-17 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-14  4:11 [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 7) Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11 ` [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11   ` [PATCH 2/8] PM: suspend_block: Add driver to access suspend blockers from user-space Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11     ` [PATCH 3/8] PM: suspend_block: Abort task freezing if a suspend_blocker is active Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11       ` [PATCH 4/8] PM: suspend_block: Add debugfs file Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11         ` [PATCH 5/8] PM: suspend_block: Add suspend_blocker stats Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11           ` [PATCH 6/8] PM: Add suspend blocking work Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11             ` [PATCH 7/8] Input: Block suspend while event queue is not empty Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11               ` [PATCH 8/8] power_supply: Block suspend while power supply change notifications are pending Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  6:13   ` [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api Paul Walmsley
2010-05-14  6:27   ` Paul Walmsley
2010-05-14  7:14     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18  2:17       ` Paul Walmsley
2010-05-18  3:06         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18  3:34           ` Paul Walmsley
2010-05-18  3:51             ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-19 15:55               ` Paul Walmsley
2010-05-20  0:35                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 13:11   ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-18 13:11   ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-20  9:11     ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-20  9:26       ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-20 22:18         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-21  6:04           ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-21  6:04           ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-27 15:41           ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-27 15:41           ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-20 22:18         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-20  9:26       ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-20  9:11     ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-14 21:08 ` [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 7) Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17  4:50   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-17  4:50   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-17 19:01     ` Mike Snitzer
2010-05-17 19:01     ` Mike Snitzer
2010-05-17 21:42     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 21:42     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 22:16       ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-17 22:16       ` Kevin Hilman [this message]
2010-05-18  0:52       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18  0:52         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 16:18         ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-18 18:52           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:04             ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-18 22:29               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:29               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:04             ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-18 18:52           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-19  0:00           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-19  0:00           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 16:18         ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-18 16:18         ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-18 19:13         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 20:47           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 21:48             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 21:48             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:03               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 22:03               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 22:34                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:34                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:52                   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 22:52                   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 23:19                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 23:42                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 23:42                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-19 20:39                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-19 21:34                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-19 21:34                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-20 22:21                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-20 22:21                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-19 20:39                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 23:19                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 20:47           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 19:13         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-14 21:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-16 19:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-16 19:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17  4:16   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-17  4:16   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-17 20:40     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 20:51       ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-17 20:51       ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-17 21:44         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 23:32           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 19:38             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 19:38             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 20:35               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 20:35               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 21:14                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 21:14                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:21                   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 22:21                   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 22:56                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:56                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 23:06                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 23:06                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-19 20:40                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-19 20:40                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 23:32           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-17 21:44         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 20:40     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-05-14  4:11 Arve Hjønnevåg

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