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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Cc: Ben Blum <bblum@andrew.cmu.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, lizf@cn.fujitsu.com, matthltc@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH 2/2] cgroups: make procs file writable
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 22:58:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100602205855.GA30039@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimrJFiidM8BlUNvmzfapUAv8369R9PYnTscasEf@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/02, Paul Menage wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes sure. The main thread can exit via sys_exit(), this doesn't affect
> > the thread group. Of course, I am not saying this is common practice,
> > perhaps no "important" app does this.
>
> This check has been in cgroups for quite a while and no-one's
> complained so far...

Sure. because currently attach_task_by_pid() works with the single
thread. But Ben's patch reuses this code to call cgroup_attach_proc().

> > But I still can't understand why we can't just remove it. Both
> > cgroup_attach_task() and cgroup_attach_proc() should handle the
> > possible races correctly anyway.
>
> The "it" that you're proposing to remove is in fact the code that
> handles those races.

In that case I confused, and I thought we already agreed that
the PF_EXITING check in attach_task_by_pid() is not strictly needed
for correctness.

Once again, the task can call do_exit() and set PF_EXITING right
after the check.

> Anyway, I think this issue is orthogonal to the movability of entire
> processes - with Ben's patch, an exited-but-not-reaped group leader is
> immovable either via "tasks" or "cgroup.procs".

Hmm. As I said, I didn't really read this patch. But I thought that
cgroup_attach_proc() tries to handle this.

Anyway I agree, this is minor and I never pretended I understand
this code.


Hmm. The usage of ->thread_group in ->can_attach() methods doesn't
look safe to me... but currently bool threadgroup is always false.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-02 21:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-30  1:30 [RFC] [PATCH v2 0/2] cgroups: implement moving a threadgroup's threads atomically with cgroup.procs Ben Blum
2010-05-30  1:30 ` Ben Blum
     [not found] ` <20100530013002.GA762-kwnxxEB+oiWqwBT9kiuFm8WGCVk0P7UB@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-30  1:31   ` [RFC] [PATCH 1/2] cgroups: read-write lock CLONE_THREAD forking per threadgroup Ben Blum
2010-05-30  1:31     ` Ben Blum
2010-05-30  1:33   ` [RFC] [PATCH 2/2] cgroups: make procs file writable Ben Blum
2010-05-30  1:33     ` Ben Blum
2010-05-31 17:52     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-05-31 18:04       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20100531180446.GA16249-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-01 18:57           ` Paul Menage
2010-06-01 18:57         ` Paul Menage
2010-06-02 14:06           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-02 19:53             ` Paul Menage
2010-06-02 20:20               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                 ` <20100602202048.GB28663-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-02 20:31                   ` Paul Menage
2010-06-02 20:31                 ` Paul Menage
2010-06-02 20:58                   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2010-06-02 21:12                     ` Paul Menage
     [not found]                       ` <AANLkTimfHlapl7mbRyAazWW5q5Wzs23n6i9wIhVtSv6r-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-02 21:38                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-02 21:38                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-02 22:03                         ` Paul Menage
     [not found]                           ` <AANLkTimsusetA9B95-LvKsDdAB_PegYH7Zljyi4Doe_q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-03  4:44                             ` Ben Blum
2010-06-03  4:44                               ` Ben Blum
     [not found]                         ` <20100602213832.GB31949-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-02 22:03                           ` Paul Menage
2010-06-03  4:40                     ` Ben Blum
2010-06-03 14:48                       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                       ` <20100603044001.GA21006-jeg9jHBoDvuqwBT9kiuFm8WGCVk0P7UB@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-03 14:48                         ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                     ` <20100602205855.GA30039-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-02 21:12                       ` Paul Menage
2010-06-03  4:40                       ` Ben Blum
     [not found]                   ` <AANLkTimrJFiidM8BlUNvmzfapUAv8369R9PYnTscasEf-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-02 20:58                     ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]               ` <AANLkTin-T6ij3xf0ceGoCamwcoayxyf0GdAKY6yXDMVl-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-02 20:20                 ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]             ` <20100602140659.GA5324-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-02 19:53               ` Paul Menage
     [not found]           ` <AANLkTimcrX0TjzDMNJdubR92pAO4IPATbVpyvvVt0qIV-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-02 14:06             ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]       ` <20100531175242.GA14691-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-31 18:04         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-03  4:56         ` Ben Blum
2010-06-03  4:56       ` Ben Blum
2010-06-03 14:43         ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20100603045629.GC21006-jeg9jHBoDvuqwBT9kiuFm8WGCVk0P7UB@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-03 14:43           ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]     ` <20100530013303.GC762-kwnxxEB+oiWqwBT9kiuFm8WGCVk0P7UB@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-31 17:52       ` Oleg Nesterov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-08-20 21:14 + cgroups-add-functionality-to-read-write-lock-clone_thread-forking-per-threadgroup.patch added to -mm tree akpm
2009-08-21 10:26 ` + cgroups-add-functionality-to-read-write-lock-clone_thread-forking-pe r-threadgroup.patch " Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-21 10:45   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-21 23:37     ` Paul Menage
2009-08-22 13:09       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-01-03 19:06         ` Ben Blum
     [not found]           ` <20100103190613.GA13423-OM76b2Iv3yLQjUSlxSEPGw@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-03 19:09             ` [RFC] [PATCH 2/2] cgroups: make procs file writable Ben Blum
2010-01-03 19:09               ` Ben Blum

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