From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>
Cc: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@crca.org.au>,
pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"TuxOnIce-devel" <tuxonice-devel@tuxonice.net>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: Proposal for a new algorithm for reading & writing a hibernation image.
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 21:21:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201006052121.45816.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1275765021.12828.2.camel@maxim-laptop>
On Saturday 05 June 2010, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-06-05 at 20:45 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Saturday 05 June 2010, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > > Hi again.
> > >
> > > As I think about this more, I reckon we could run into problems at
> > > resume time with reloading the image. Even if some bits aren't modified
> > > as we're writing the image, they still might need to be atomically
> > > restored. If we make the atomic restore part too small, we might not be
> > > able to do that.
> > >
> > > So perhaps the best thing would be to stick with the way TuxOnIce splits
> > > the image at the moment (page cache / process pages vs 'rest'), but
> > > using this faulting mechanism to ensure we do get all the pages that are
> > > changed while writing the first part of the image.
> >
> > I still don't quite understand why you insist on saving the page cache data
> > upfront and re-using the memory occupied by them for another purpose. If you
> > dropped that requirement, I'd really have much less of a problem with the
> > TuxOnIce's approach.
> Because its the biggest advantage?
It isn't in fact.
> Really saving whole memory makes huge difference.
You don't have to save the _whole_ memory to get the same speed (you don't
do that anyway, but the amount of data you don't put into the image with
TuxOnIce is smaller). Something like 80% would be just sufficient IMO and
then (a) the level of complications involved would drop significantly and (2)
you'd be able to use the image-reading code already in the kernel without
any modifications. It really looks like a win-win to me, doesn't it?
Rafael
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2010-06-03 14:50 [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [linux-pm] Proposal for a new algorithm for reading & writing a hibernation image Pavel Machek
2010-06-04 23:39 ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] " Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-04 23:39 ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [linux-pm] " Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-04 23:58 ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-04 23:58 ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05 0:36 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-05 0:45 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-05 3:37 ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05 3:37 ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05 0:45 ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] " Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-05 0:47 ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05 1:16 ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] " Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-05 1:16 ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [linux-pm] " Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-05 3:17 ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05 3:17 ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05 0:47 ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05 0:36 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-05 0:05 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05 0:05 ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05 12:59 ` [TuxOnIce-devel] " Theodore Tso
2010-06-05 23:01 ` [TuxOnIce-devel] [SUSPECTED SPAM] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05 23:01 ` [TuxOnIce-devel] [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05 12:59 ` [TuxOnIce-devel] [SUSPECTED SPAM] " Theodore Tso
2010-06-05 0:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05 0:20 ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05 18:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-05 18:45 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-05 19:10 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-05 19:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2010-06-05 22:54 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05 23:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-05 23:20 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-06 7:01 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-06 7:01 ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-06 14:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-07 5:23 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-07 8:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-07 8:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-07 5:23 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-06 14:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-05 22:54 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-06 0:40 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-06 0:40 ` [linux-pm] " Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-06 13:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-06 15:54 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-06 15:54 ` [linux-pm] " Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-06 19:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-06 19:04 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-06 19:51 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-06 19:51 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-06 21:55 ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-06-06 21:55 ` [linux-pm] " Pedro Ribeiro
2010-06-07 8:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-07 8:41 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-07 5:31 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-07 8:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-08 2:07 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-08 9:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-08 9:01 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-08 2:07 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-07 8:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-07 13:07 ` [TuxOnIce-devel] " Martin Steigerwald
2010-06-07 13:07 ` [TuxOnIce-devel] [linux-pm] " Martin Steigerwald
2010-06-07 21:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-07 21:31 ` [TuxOnIce-devel] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-07 21:31 ` [TuxOnIce-devel] [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-07 21:28 ` [TuxOnIce-devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-07 5:31 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-07 5:28 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-07 5:28 ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-06 13:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-05 19:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-05 19:10 ` Maxim Levitsky
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