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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] writeback: limit write_cache_pages integrity scanning to current EOF
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:38:31 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100608053831.GR26335@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1275957487-23633-7-git-send-email-david@fromorbit.com>

On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 10:38:07AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> 
> sync can currently take a really long time if a concurrent writer is
> extending a file. The problem is that the dirty pages on the address
> space grow in the same direction as write_cache_pages scans, so if
> the writer keeps ahead of writeback, the writeback will not
> terminate until the writer stops adding dirty pages.
> 
> For a data integrity sync, we only need to write the pages dirty at
> the time we start the writeback, so we can stop scanning once we get
> to the page that was at the end of the file at the time the scan
> started.
> 
> This will prevent operations like copying a large file preventing
> sync from completing as it will not write back pages that were
> dirtied after the sync was started. This does not impact the
> existing integrity guarantees, as any dirty page (old or new)
> within the EOF range at the start of the scan will still be
> captured.
> 
> This patch will not prevent sync from blocking on large writes into
> holes.

The writes don't have to be into holes to cause this starvation
problem, do they?


> That requires more complex intervention while this patch only
> addresses the common append-case of this sync holdoff.

Jan's tagging patch looks pretty good to me and isn't so complex.
I think we should just take that.

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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] writeback: limit write_cache_pages integrity scanning to current EOF
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:38:31 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100608053831.GR26335@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1275957487-23633-7-git-send-email-david@fromorbit.com>

On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 10:38:07AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> 
> sync can currently take a really long time if a concurrent writer is
> extending a file. The problem is that the dirty pages on the address
> space grow in the same direction as write_cache_pages scans, so if
> the writer keeps ahead of writeback, the writeback will not
> terminate until the writer stops adding dirty pages.
> 
> For a data integrity sync, we only need to write the pages dirty at
> the time we start the writeback, so we can stop scanning once we get
> to the page that was at the end of the file at the time the scan
> started.
> 
> This will prevent operations like copying a large file preventing
> sync from completing as it will not write back pages that were
> dirtied after the sync was started. This does not impact the
> existing integrity guarantees, as any dirty page (old or new)
> within the EOF range at the start of the scan will still be
> captured.
> 
> This patch will not prevent sync from blocking on large writes into
> holes.

The writes don't have to be into holes to cause this starvation
problem, do they?


> That requires more complex intervention while this patch only
> addresses the common append-case of this sync holdoff.

Jan's tagging patch looks pretty good to me and isn't so complex.
I think we should just take that.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-08  5:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-08  0:38 [PATCH 0/6] writeback: tracing and fixes V4 Dave Chinner
2010-06-08  0:38 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-08  0:38 ` [PATCH 1/6] writeback: initial tracing support Dave Chinner
2010-06-08  0:38   ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-08  0:38 ` [PATCH 2/6] writeback: Add tracing to balance_dirty_pages Dave Chinner
2010-06-08  0:38   ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-08  0:38 ` [PATCH 3/6] writeback: Add tracing to write_cache_pages Dave Chinner
2010-06-08  0:38   ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-08  0:38 ` [PATCH 4/6] writeback: pay attention to wbc->nr_to_write in write_cache_pages Dave Chinner
2010-06-08  0:38   ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-08  5:43   ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-08  5:43     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-08  0:38 ` [PATCH 5/6] xfs: remove nr_to_write writeback windup Dave Chinner
2010-06-08  0:38   ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-08  0:38 ` [PATCH 6/6] writeback: limit write_cache_pages integrity scanning to current EOF Dave Chinner
2010-06-08  0:38   ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-08  5:38   ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2010-06-08  5:38     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-08  6:59     ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-08  6:59       ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-08  5:44 ` [PATCH 0/6] writeback: tracing and fixes V4 Nick Piggin
2010-06-08  5:44   ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-08 17:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-08 17:41   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-08 17:50   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 17:50     ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 22:46   ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-08 22:46     ` Dave Chinner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-06-03 23:55 [PATCH 0/6] writeback: tracing and fixes V3 Dave Chinner
2010-06-03 23:55 ` [PATCH 6/6] writeback: limit write_cache_pages integrity scanning to current EOF Dave Chinner
2010-06-03 23:55   ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-04  7:52   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-04  7:52     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-04  7:56     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-04  7:56       ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 10:54 [PATCH 0/6] writeback: tracing and fixes Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 10:54 ` [PATCH 6/6] writeback: limit write_cache_pages integrity scanning to current EOF Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 10:54   ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 21:33   ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-27 21:33     ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-28  1:23     ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-28  1:23       ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-28  5:06     ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-28  5:06       ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-01 15:54     ` Jan Kara
2010-06-01 15:54       ` Jan Kara

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