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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	david@fromorbit.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: Implement writeback livelock avoidance using page tagging
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:04:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100609130418.GA8739@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100608052937.GP26335@laptop>

On Tue 08-06-10 15:29:37, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 06:09:03PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Sat 05-06-10 11:38:02, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 08:47:11PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > > +	if (wbc->sync_mode == WB_SYNC_ALL)
> > > > +		tag_pages_for_writeback(mapping, index, end);
> > > 
> > > I wonder if this is too much spinlock latency in a huge dirty file?
> > > Some kid of batching of the operation perhaps would be good?
> >   You mean like copy tags for 4096 pages, then cond_resched the spin lock
> > and continue? That should be doable but it will give tasks that try to
> > livelock us more time (i.e. if there were 4096 tasks creating dirty pages
> > than probably they would be able to livelock us, won't they? Maybe we don't
> > care?).
> 
> Not 100% sure. I think that if we've got the inode in I_SYNC state, it
> should stop cleaning and dirtiers will get throttled.
> 
> Even if writeback was able to continue on that inode, it would be a big
> achievement to dirty then clean pages as fast as we are able to tag them
> in batches of 4096 :)
  In practice, you are probably right that the writers will eventually get
throttled if they were aggressive enough to dirty lots of pages while
we cond_resched the lock...

									Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-09 13:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-04 18:47 [PATCH 0/2 RFC v3] Livelock avoidance for data integrity writeback Jan Kara
2010-06-04 18:47 ` [PATCH 1/2] radix-tree: Implement function radix_tree_gang_tag_if_tagged Jan Kara
2010-06-04 18:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: Implement writeback livelock avoidance using page tagging Jan Kara
2010-06-05  1:38   ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-07 16:09     ` Jan Kara
2010-06-08  5:29       ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-09 13:04         ` Jan Kara [this message]
2010-06-10  8:12       ` Jan Kara
2010-08-12 18:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-12 22:28     ` Jan Kara
2010-08-13  7:50       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-05  1:14 ` [PATCH 0/2 RFC v3] Livelock avoidance for data integrity writeback Nick Piggin
2010-06-06  4:08   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-06-06  7:52     ` Nick Piggin
     [not found] <1277387867-5525-1-git-send-email-jack@suse.cz>
2010-06-24 13:57 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: Implement writeback livelock avoidance using page tagging Jan Kara
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-06-16 16:33 (unknown), Jan Kara
2010-06-16 16:33 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: Implement writeback livelock avoidance using page tagging Jan Kara
2010-06-18 22:21   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-21 12:42     ` Jan Kara
2010-06-04 18:40 [PATCH 0/2 RFC v3] Livelock avoidance for data integrity writeback Jan Kara
2010-06-04 18:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: Implement writeback livelock avoidance using page tagging Jan Kara
2010-06-09 23:41   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-10 12:31     ` Jan Kara
2010-06-09 23:45   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-10 12:42     ` Jan Kara

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