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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: Steve Wise <swise-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Roland Dreier <rdreier-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Alekseys Senin <alekseys-smomgflXvOZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Eli Cohen <eli-VPRAkNaXOzVS1MOuV/RT9w@public.gmane.org>,
	"ewg-G2znmakfqn7U1rindQTSdQ@public.gmane.org"
	<ewg-G2znmakfqn7U1rindQTSdQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Moni Shoua <monis-smomgflXvOZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [ewg] [PATCH v4] IB Core: RAW ETH support
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:02:35 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100616170234.GA2932@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C18DB37.6050501-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 09:09:59AM -0500, Steve Wise wrote:

> Granted our dev process may not be documented, but I always assumed the 
> general idea was to get changes accepted upstream, then pull into ofed. 
> OFED is just a mechanism to make top-of-tree linux work on distro 
> kernels. There are some exceptions, but this stuff shouldn't be an 
> exception.

That is what many people wish for, me included, but it is not at all
what generally happens :(

In my observation the typical flow is:
 - A patch is written, it may or may not be sent to the list
 - 'business drivers' get it slammed into OFED right away
 - A patch is finally sent for proper review
 - It is not merged, there are comments..
 - Interest in doing anything is lost because it is already in
   OFED and that is all that matters, right?
 - People complain.

For instance, the iWarp thingy we were just discussing fits this
process rather well.

Jason
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-16 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <1276513450.30132.51.camel@alst60.voltaire.com>
     [not found]   ` <1276513450.30132.51.camel-uOVkuFIEnOODI2cvxHXf6UEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-15 21:14     ` [ewg] [PATCH v4] IB Core: RAW ETH support Roland Dreier
     [not found]       ` <aday6eguhfn.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-16 14:09         ` Steve Wise
     [not found]           ` <4C18DB37.6050501-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-16 15:47             ` Moni Shoua
     [not found]               ` <4C18F21D.3050502-hKgKHo2Ms0F+cjeuK/JdrQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-16 15:54                 ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                   ` <4C18F39D.3040609-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-16 15:59                     ` Tung, Chien Tin
2010-06-16 17:02             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
     [not found]               ` <20100616170234.GA2932-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-16 17:12                 ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                   ` <4C1905E6.2000304-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-16 17:52                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                       ` <20100616175259.GF4630-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-16 18:35                         ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                           ` <4C19195B.1080003-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-17 13:58                             ` Doug Ledford
2010-06-17 14:10                     ` Doug Ledford
2010-06-16 14:53         ` [ewg] " Moni Shoua
     [not found]           ` <4C18E557.5050804-hKgKHo2Ms0F+cjeuK/JdrQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 17:31             ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]               ` <ada4ogtvenr.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-24 19:44                 ` Moni Shoua

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