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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	hch@infradead.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm: Implement balance_dirty_pages() through waiting for flusher thread
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:29:39 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100618232939.GG6590@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1276852260.27822.1598.camel@twins>

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:11:00AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 16:09 +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > +             bdi->wb_written_head = bdi_stat(bdi, BDI_WRITTEN) + wc->written;
> > 
> > The resolution of the percpu counters is an issue here, I think.
> > percpu counters update in batches of 32 counts per CPU. wc->written
> > is going to have a value of roughly 8 or 32 depending on whether
> > bdi->dirty_exceeded is set or not. I note that you take this into
> > account when checking dirty threshold limits, but it doesn't appear
> > to be taken in to here. 
> 
> The BDI stuff uses a custom batch-size, see bdi_stat_error() and
> related. The total error is in the order of O(n log n) where n is the
> number of CPUs.

#define BDI_STAT_BATCH (8*(1+ilog2(nr_cpu_ids)))

A dual socket server I have here:

[    0.000000] NR_CPUS:512 nr_cpumask_bits:512 nr_cpu_ids:32 nr_node_ids:2

Which means that the bdi per-cpu counter batch size on it would be 48
and the inaccuracy would be even bigger than I described. ;)

> But yeah, the whole dirty_exceeded thing makes life more
> interesting.

I suspect the 8 vs 32 pages could go away without too much impact
with the Jan's mechanism...

Another thing to consider is the impact of mulipage writes on the
incoming value to balance_dirty_pages - if we get 1024 page writes
running, then that may impact on the way throttling behaves, too.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-18 23:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-17 18:04 [PATCH RFC] mm: Implement balance_dirty_pages() through waiting for flusher thread Jan Kara
2010-06-17 18:04 ` Jan Kara
2010-06-18  6:09 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-18  9:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-18 23:29     ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2010-06-21 23:36   ` Jan Kara
2010-06-22  5:44     ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-22  6:14       ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-22  7:45         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-22  8:24           ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-22  8:52             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-22 10:09         ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-22 13:17           ` Jan Kara
2010-06-22 13:17             ` Jan Kara
2010-06-22 13:52             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-06-22 13:52               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-06-22 13:59               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-22 13:59                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-22 14:00               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-22 14:36                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-06-22 14:02               ` Jan Kara
2010-06-22 14:02                 ` Jan Kara
2010-06-22 14:24                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-06-22 14:24                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-06-22 22:29                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-23 13:15                   ` Jan Kara
2010-06-23 13:15                     ` Jan Kara
2010-06-23 23:06                     ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-22 14:31               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-22 14:31                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-22 14:38                 ` Jan Kara
2010-06-22 14:38                   ` Jan Kara
2010-06-22 22:45                   ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-23  1:34                     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-06-23  1:34                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-06-23  3:06                       ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-23  3:22                         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-06-23  3:22                           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-06-23  6:03                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-23  6:03                             ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-23  6:25                             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-06-23  6:25                               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-06-23 23:42                               ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-23 23:42                                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-22 14:41                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-06-22 11:19       ` Jan Kara
2010-06-22 11:19         ` Jan Kara
2010-06-18 10:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-21 13:31   ` Jan Kara
2010-06-18 10:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-21 14:02   ` Jan Kara
2010-06-21 14:02     ` Jan Kara
2010-06-21 14:10     ` Jan Kara
2010-06-21 14:10       ` Jan Kara
2010-06-21 14:12       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-18 10:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-21 13:42   ` Jan Kara
2010-06-21 13:42     ` Jan Kara
2010-06-22  4:07     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-06-22  4:07       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-06-22 13:27       ` Jan Kara
2010-06-22 13:27         ` Jan Kara
2010-06-22 13:33         ` Wu Fengguang

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