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From: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Ben Blum <bblum@andrew.cmu.edu>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	Jan Safranek <jsafrane@redhat.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cgroupfs: create /sys/fs/cgroup to mount cgroupfs on
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:18:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100722211856.GA1297@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100722193741.GA2688@redhat.com>

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 03:37:41PM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:36:15AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:31:07AM -0700, Paul Menage wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de> wrote:
> > > > We really shouldn't be asking userspace to create new root filesystems.
> > > > So follow along with all of the other in-kernel filesystems, and provide
> > > > a mount point in sysfs.
> > > >
> > > > For cgroupfs, this should be in /sys/fs/cgroup/  This change provides
> > > > that mount point when the cgroup filesystem is registered in the kernel.
> > > 
> > > But cgroups will typically have multiple mounts, with different
> > > resource controllers/options on each mount. That doesn't really fit in
> > > with this scheme.
> > 
> > Really?  I see systems mounting it at /cgroups/ in the filesystem today.
> > Where are you expecting it to be mounted at?
> > 
> 
> Greg,
> 
> [CCing few more folks who might be interested in this dicussion ]
> 
> We do want to retain facility to mount different controllers at different
> mount points. We were discussing the other day that in libvirt we might
> want to mount block IO controller and network controller separately as
> by default we will not put a new virtual machine in a cgroup of its own
> because of the penatly involved.

That's fine, I'm not changing that ability at all.  We just need a
"default" mount point for "normal" users.

> For other controllers like cpu, memory etc, libvirt automatically puts
> each new virtual machine in a cgroup of own. So this is one use case
> where we might want to mount different controllers at different mount
> points.
> 
> For my testing I now always use /cgroup/ and create directories under it
> /cgroup/blkio /cgroup/cpu etc and mount controllers on respective
> directories.

Lennart and Kay, is this what systemd is doing?  I really don't think we
should be adding a root /cgroup/ mount point to the system for something
like this.

Maybe /dev/cgroup/ is better to use, as that way users can create
sub-mount points easier.  They can't do that in /sys/fs/cgroup/

thanks,

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-22 21:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-22 18:26 [PATCH] cgroupfs: create /sys/fs/cgroup to mount cgroupfs on Greg KH
     [not found] ` <20100722182638.GA12712-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 18:31   ` Paul Menage
2010-07-22 18:31 ` Paul Menage
2010-07-22 18:36   ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 18:44     ` Paul Menage
     [not found]       ` <AANLkTimbcuzH6_bBhYX0U6vqftYgRwE0ZTmcbaRNzXef-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 18:53         ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 18:53       ` Greg KH
     [not found]         ` <20100722185301.GA528-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 19:07           ` Paul Menage
2010-07-22 19:07         ` Paul Menage
2010-07-22 19:12           ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 19:18             ` Paul Menage
2010-07-22 21:19               ` Greg KH
     [not found]                 ` <20100722211958.GB1297-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 23:12                   ` Paul Menage
2010-07-22 23:12                 ` Paul Menage
     [not found]                   ` <AANLkTimwUC_ToxADRR9n5_KLFVHgL=ymMngXAyt+OboJ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 23:20                     ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 23:20                   ` Greg KH
     [not found]               ` <AANLkTi=8TTeGG3OTbP4zzNAe_rDaNNL8D0Yxp7DixohK-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 21:19                 ` Greg KH
     [not found]             ` <20100722191200.GA5609-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 19:18               ` Paul Menage
2010-07-22 21:48               ` Matt Helsley
2010-07-22 21:48             ` Matt Helsley
2010-07-22 23:10               ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-23 20:21                 ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]                 ` <AANLkTikluqTBi3XsU-OT_IJuBdkURkHpM3ut-8ratnzr-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-23 20:21                   ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]               ` <20100722214821.GB14303-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 23:10                 ` Kay Sievers
     [not found]           ` <AANLkTik07hZot_x0p7xJuY8s4f8pGRd2Mn1+jYfHH2iq-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 19:12             ` Greg KH
     [not found]     ` <20100722183614.GA5443-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 18:44       ` Paul Menage
2010-07-22 19:37       ` Vivek Goyal
2010-07-22 19:37     ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]       ` <20100722193741.GA2688-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 21:18         ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 21:18       ` Greg KH [this message]
2010-07-22 21:26         ` Vivek Goyal
2010-07-22 23:35           ` Greg KH
     [not found]           ` <20100722212634.GC2688-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 23:35             ` Greg KH
2010-07-24 14:15             ` Balbir Singh
2010-07-24 14:15           ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]         ` <20100722211856.GA1297-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 21:26           ` Vivek Goyal
2010-07-22 23:08           ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-22 23:08         ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-22 23:14           ` Greg KH
     [not found]             ` <20100722231401.GA11538-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 23:16               ` Paul Menage
2010-07-22 23:23               ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-23  2:07               ` Vivek Goyal
2010-07-22 23:16             ` Paul Menage
2010-07-22 23:23             ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-23  2:07             ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]               ` <20100723020714.GA11236-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-23 10:32                 ` Jan Safranek
2010-07-23 10:32               ` Jan Safranek
     [not found]                 ` <4C496FBA.3060009-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-23 12:06                   ` Greg KH
2010-07-23 12:06                 ` Greg KH
     [not found]           ` <AANLkTinFQtwrCC82T9KlKskDV8fn-zYgimyH2wguHkqY-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 23:14             ` Greg KH
2010-07-26  9:08     ` Dhaval Giani
     [not found]       ` <AANLkTinsd2gWOHb3w9gzvKO5vdwLBT7DZOY+2xCUz_5_-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-26  9:12         ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-26  9:12       ` Kay Sievers
     [not found]         ` <AANLkTimm9XGvK2H55V7N76JPU05iHk_dY5JjOLifQTsr-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-26  9:13           ` Dhaval Giani
2010-07-26  9:13         ` Dhaval Giani
2010-07-26 21:28           ` Greg KH
     [not found]             ` <20100726212858.GA15904-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-26 21:55               ` Paul Menage
2010-07-26 21:55             ` Paul Menage
2010-07-26 22:05               ` Greg KH
     [not found]                 ` <20100726220546.GB9671-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-26 22:08                   ` Dhaval Giani
2010-07-26 22:09                   ` Paul Menage
2010-07-26 22:08                 ` Dhaval Giani
2010-07-26 22:17                   ` Greg KH
     [not found]                   ` <AANLkTi=d1-Uf4TeyvMH3evo91zPWjbincij=HC0ny0Ym-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-26 22:17                     ` Greg KH
2010-07-26 22:09                 ` Paul Menage
2010-07-26 22:17                   ` Greg KH
     [not found]                   ` <AANLkTi=Vrax+ob87uiDzeMxOmuDNYUWnDKG0jpfQppAp-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-26 22:17                     ` Greg KH
     [not found]               ` <AANLkTimmAfhw7WhPHHU6d4izkzvp2oxOSzNN8JjNu_nU-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-26 22:05                 ` Greg KH
     [not found]           ` <AANLkTi=OMaKuk+ReeqCfBGes76BjKYyUdqxPOQfH8EcZ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-26 21:28             ` Greg KH
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTinRGBksuWAZhdmvr39FNACU18+kc5ut49VUf=mp-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 18:36     ` Greg KH
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-07-22 18:26 Greg KH

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