From: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Ben Blum <bblum@andrew.cmu.edu>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
Jan Safranek <jsafrane@redhat.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cgroupfs: create /sys/fs/cgroup to mount cgroupfs on
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:35:54 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100722233554.GB442@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100722212634.GC2688@redhat.com>
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 05:26:34PM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 02:18:56PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 03:37:41PM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:36:15AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:31:07AM -0700, Paul Menage wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de> wrote:
> > > > > > We really shouldn't be asking userspace to create new root filesystems.
> > > > > > So follow along with all of the other in-kernel filesystems, and provide
> > > > > > a mount point in sysfs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For cgroupfs, this should be in /sys/fs/cgroup/ This change provides
> > > > > > that mount point when the cgroup filesystem is registered in the kernel.
> > > > >
> > > > > But cgroups will typically have multiple mounts, with different
> > > > > resource controllers/options on each mount. That doesn't really fit in
> > > > > with this scheme.
> > > >
> > > > Really? I see systems mounting it at /cgroups/ in the filesystem today.
> > > > Where are you expecting it to be mounted at?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Greg,
> > >
> > > [CCing few more folks who might be interested in this dicussion ]
> > >
> > > We do want to retain facility to mount different controllers at different
> > > mount points. We were discussing the other day that in libvirt we might
> > > want to mount block IO controller and network controller separately as
> > > by default we will not put a new virtual machine in a cgroup of its own
> > > because of the penatly involved.
> >
> > That's fine, I'm not changing that ability at all. We just need a
> > "default" mount point for "normal" users.
> >
> > > For other controllers like cpu, memory etc, libvirt automatically puts
> > > each new virtual machine in a cgroup of own. So this is one use case
> > > where we might want to mount different controllers at different mount
> > > points.
> > >
> > > For my testing I now always use /cgroup/ and create directories under it
> > > /cgroup/blkio /cgroup/cpu etc and mount controllers on respective
> > > directories.
> >
> > Lennart and Kay, is this what systemd is doing? I really don't think we
> > should be adding a root /cgroup/ mount point to the system for something
> > like this.
> >
> > Maybe /dev/cgroup/ is better to use, as that way users can create
> > sub-mount points easier. They can't do that in /sys/fs/cgroup/
>
> The only problem with /dev/cgroup seems to be that it seems little
> unintutive. To me, we have devices under /dev/ dir and cgroups are not
> devices.
>
> I think people have floated similar threads in the past on lkml with
> various opinions and everybody had their own choices but nothing was
> conclusive.
>
> Polluting / definitely sounds odd but it does not look that bad once
> we can't find any other good choices.
I think /sys/fs/cgroup/ is a better choice than polluting /
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-22 23:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-22 18:26 [PATCH] cgroupfs: create /sys/fs/cgroup to mount cgroupfs on Greg KH
2010-07-22 18:31 ` Paul Menage
[not found] ` <AANLkTinRGBksuWAZhdmvr39FNACU18+kc5ut49VUf=mp-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 18:36 ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 18:36 ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 18:44 ` Paul Menage
[not found] ` <AANLkTimbcuzH6_bBhYX0U6vqftYgRwE0ZTmcbaRNzXef-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 18:53 ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 18:53 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <20100722185301.GA528-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 19:07 ` Paul Menage
2010-07-22 19:07 ` Paul Menage
2010-07-22 19:12 ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 19:18 ` Paul Menage
2010-07-22 21:19 ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 23:12 ` Paul Menage
2010-07-22 23:20 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <AANLkTimwUC_ToxADRR9n5_KLFVHgL=ymMngXAyt+OboJ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 23:20 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <20100722211958.GB1297-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 23:12 ` Paul Menage
[not found] ` <AANLkTi=8TTeGG3OTbP4zzNAe_rDaNNL8D0Yxp7DixohK-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 21:19 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <20100722191200.GA5609-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 19:18 ` Paul Menage
2010-07-22 21:48 ` Matt Helsley
2010-07-22 21:48 ` Matt Helsley
2010-07-22 23:10 ` Kay Sievers
[not found] ` <AANLkTikluqTBi3XsU-OT_IJuBdkURkHpM3ut-8ratnzr-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-23 20:21 ` Matt Helsley
2010-07-23 20:21 ` Matt Helsley
[not found] ` <20100722214821.GB14303-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 23:10 ` Kay Sievers
[not found] ` <AANLkTik07hZot_x0p7xJuY8s4f8pGRd2Mn1+jYfHH2iq-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 19:12 ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 19:37 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20100722193741.GA2688-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 21:18 ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 21:18 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <20100722211856.GA1297-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 21:26 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-07-22 23:08 ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-22 21:26 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-07-22 23:35 ` Greg KH [this message]
[not found] ` <20100722212634.GC2688-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 23:35 ` Greg KH
2010-07-24 14:15 ` Balbir Singh
2010-07-24 14:15 ` Balbir Singh
2010-07-22 23:08 ` Kay Sievers
[not found] ` <AANLkTinFQtwrCC82T9KlKskDV8fn-zYgimyH2wguHkqY-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 23:14 ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 23:14 ` Greg KH
2010-07-22 23:16 ` Paul Menage
2010-07-22 23:23 ` Kay Sievers
[not found] ` <20100722231401.GA11538-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 23:16 ` Paul Menage
2010-07-22 23:23 ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-23 2:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-07-23 2:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-07-23 10:32 ` Jan Safranek
2010-07-23 12:06 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <4C496FBA.3060009-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-23 12:06 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <20100723020714.GA11236-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-23 10:32 ` Jan Safranek
[not found] ` <20100722183614.GA5443-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 18:44 ` Paul Menage
2010-07-22 19:37 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-07-26 9:08 ` Dhaval Giani
[not found] ` <AANLkTinsd2gWOHb3w9gzvKO5vdwLBT7DZOY+2xCUz_5_-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-26 9:12 ` Kay Sievers
2010-07-26 9:12 ` Kay Sievers
[not found] ` <AANLkTimm9XGvK2H55V7N76JPU05iHk_dY5JjOLifQTsr-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-26 9:13 ` Dhaval Giani
2010-07-26 9:13 ` Dhaval Giani
2010-07-26 21:28 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <20100726212858.GA15904-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-26 21:55 ` Paul Menage
2010-07-26 21:55 ` Paul Menage
[not found] ` <AANLkTimmAfhw7WhPHHU6d4izkzvp2oxOSzNN8JjNu_nU-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-26 22:05 ` Greg KH
2010-07-26 22:05 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <20100726220546.GB9671-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-26 22:08 ` Dhaval Giani
2010-07-26 22:09 ` Paul Menage
2010-07-26 22:08 ` Dhaval Giani
[not found] ` <AANLkTi=d1-Uf4TeyvMH3evo91zPWjbincij=HC0ny0Ym-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-26 22:17 ` Greg KH
2010-07-26 22:17 ` Greg KH
2010-07-26 22:09 ` Paul Menage
[not found] ` <AANLkTi=Vrax+ob87uiDzeMxOmuDNYUWnDKG0jpfQppAp-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-26 22:17 ` Greg KH
2010-07-26 22:17 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <AANLkTi=OMaKuk+ReeqCfBGes76BjKYyUdqxPOQfH8EcZ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-26 21:28 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <20100722182638.GA12712-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 18:31 ` Paul Menage
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-07-22 18:26 Greg KH
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20100722233554.GB442@suse.de \
--to=gregkh@suse.de \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
--cc=bblum@andrew.cmu.edu \
--cc=berrange@redhat.com \
--cc=containers@lists.linux-foundation.org \
--cc=jsafrane@redhat.com \
--cc=kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com \
--cc=kay.sievers@vrfy.org \
--cc=lennart@poettering.net \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=lizf@cn.fujitsu.com \
--cc=menage@google.com \
--cc=vgoyal@redhat.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.