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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] writeback: the kupdate expire timestamp should be a moving target
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:52:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100726105200.GK5300@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100722061822.630779474@intel.com>

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 01:09:30PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> Dynamicly compute the dirty expire timestamp at queue_io() time.
> Also remove writeback_control.older_than_this which is no longer used.
> 
> writeback_control.older_than_this used to be determined at entrance to
> the kupdate writeback work. This _static_ timestamp may go stale if the
> kupdate work runs on and on. The flusher may then stuck with some old
> busy inodes, never considering newly expired inodes thereafter.
> 
> This has two possible problems:
> 
> - It is unfair for a large dirty inode to delay (for a long time) the
>   writeback of small dirty inodes.
> 
> - As time goes by, the large and busy dirty inode may contain only
>   _freshly_ dirtied pages. Ignoring newly expired dirty inodes risks
>   delaying the expired dirty pages to the end of LRU lists, triggering
>   the very bad pageout(). Neverthless this patch merely addresses part
>   of the problem.
> 
> CC: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>

Again, makes sense and I can't see a problem. There are some worth
smithing issues in the changelog such as Dynamicly -> Dynamically and
s/writeback_control.older_than_this used/writeback_control.older_than_this is used/
but other than that.

Acked-by: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] writeback: the kupdate expire timestamp should be a moving target
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:52:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100726105200.GK5300@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100722061822.630779474@intel.com>

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 01:09:30PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> Dynamicly compute the dirty expire timestamp at queue_io() time.
> Also remove writeback_control.older_than_this which is no longer used.
> 
> writeback_control.older_than_this used to be determined at entrance to
> the kupdate writeback work. This _static_ timestamp may go stale if the
> kupdate work runs on and on. The flusher may then stuck with some old
> busy inodes, never considering newly expired inodes thereafter.
> 
> This has two possible problems:
> 
> - It is unfair for a large dirty inode to delay (for a long time) the
>   writeback of small dirty inodes.
> 
> - As time goes by, the large and busy dirty inode may contain only
>   _freshly_ dirtied pages. Ignoring newly expired dirty inodes risks
>   delaying the expired dirty pages to the end of LRU lists, triggering
>   the very bad pageout(). Neverthless this patch merely addresses part
>   of the problem.
> 
> CC: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>

Again, makes sense and I can't see a problem. There are some worth
smithing issues in the changelog such as Dynamicly -> Dynamically and
s/writeback_control.older_than_this used/writeback_control.older_than_this is used/
but other than that.

Acked-by: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-26 10:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-22  5:09 [PATCH 0/6] [RFC] writeback: try to write older pages first Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  5:09 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  5:09 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  5:09 ` [PATCH 1/6] writeback: pass writeback_control down to move_expired_inodes() Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  5:09   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  5:09   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-23 18:16   ` Jan Kara
2010-07-23 18:16     ` Jan Kara
2010-07-26 10:44   ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 10:44     ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-01 15:23   ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-01 15:23     ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-22  5:09 ` [PATCH 2/6] writeback: the kupdate expire timestamp should be a moving target Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  5:09   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  5:09   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-23 18:17   ` Jan Kara
2010-07-23 18:17     ` Jan Kara
2010-07-26 10:52   ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2010-07-26 10:52     ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 11:32     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 11:32       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-01 15:29   ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-01 15:29     ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-22  5:09 ` [PATCH 3/6] writeback: kill writeback_control.more_io Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  5:09   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  5:09   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-23 18:24   ` Jan Kara
2010-07-23 18:24     ` Jan Kara
2010-07-26 10:53   ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 10:53     ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-01 15:34   ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-01 15:34     ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-05 14:50     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 14:50       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 14:55       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 14:55         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 14:56       ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-05 14:56         ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-05 15:26         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 15:26           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  5:09 ` [PATCH 4/6] writeback: sync expired inodes first in background writeback Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  5:09   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-23 18:15   ` Jan Kara
2010-07-23 18:15     ` Jan Kara
2010-07-26 11:51     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 11:51       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 12:12       ` Jan Kara
2010-07-26 12:12         ` Jan Kara
2010-07-26 12:29         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 12:29           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 10:57   ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 10:57     ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 12:00     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 12:00       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 12:20       ` Jan Kara
2010-07-26 12:20         ` Jan Kara
2010-07-26 12:31         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 12:31           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 12:39           ` Jan Kara
2010-07-26 12:39             ` Jan Kara
2010-07-26 12:47             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 12:47               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 12:56     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 12:56       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 12:59       ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 12:59         ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 13:11         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 13:11           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-27  9:45           ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-27  9:45             ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-01 15:15           ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-01 15:15             ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-22  5:09 ` [PATCH 5/6] writeback: try more writeback as long as something was written Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  5:09   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  5:09   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-23 17:39   ` Jan Kara
2010-07-23 17:39     ` Jan Kara
2010-07-26 12:39     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 12:39       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 11:01   ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 11:01     ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 11:39     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 11:39       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  5:09 ` [PATCH 6/6] writeback: introduce writeback_control.inodes_written Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  5:09   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  5:09   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 11:04   ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 11:04     ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-23 10:24 ` [PATCH 0/6] [RFC] writeback: try to write older pages first Mel Gorman
2010-07-23 10:24   ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26  7:18   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26  7:18     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 10:42     ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 10:42       ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 10:28 ` Itaru Kitayama
2010-07-26 10:28   ` Itaru Kitayama
2010-07-26 11:47   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 11:47     ` Wu Fengguang
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-04-19  3:00 [PATCH 0/6] writeback: moving expire targets for background/kupdate works Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19  3:00 ` [PATCH 2/6] writeback: the kupdate expire timestamp should be a moving target Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19  3:00   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19  3:00   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19  7:02   ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19  7:02     ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19  7:20     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19  7:20       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19  9:31       ` Jan Kara
2011-04-19  9:31         ` Jan Kara

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