From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: KVM call agenda for July 27
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:01:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100727170142.GU12387@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C4F0C7A.4030309@redhat.com>
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 07:42:34PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 07/27/2010 07:36 PM, Chris Wright wrote:
> >
> >>If things work there's no reason for the user to go look at the
> >>logs. An exclamation point invites clicking.
> >>
> >>Even better would be an ABRT plugin, so if something goes
> >>(marginally) wrong, the siren pops up and you're invited to report
> >>the bug.
> >Despite some of the ABRT growing pains, ABRT plugin seems like a good
> >idea. I don't know enough of the plugins to know if that requires
> >formatted output and just grepping for some known regexps.
>
> It's annoying to us old hands, but it does give that nice integrated
> system feel that we're missing, and it works even if virt-manager is in
> the background (or if you don't use virt-manager at all).
>
> Given that there's a kerneloops pluging that presumably does similar
> parsing, I don't think it's too hard:
>
> $ size /usr/lib64/abrt/libKerneloopsScanner.so
> text data bss dec hex filename
> 18293 1416 16 19725 4d0d
> /usr/lib64/abrt/libKerneloopsScanner.so
One issue though - a kernel oopps is a clear bug. A failure to start
QEMU is often just a mis-configuration, not a bug. We don't want to spa
developers with ABRT reports everytime a user misconfigures a guest.
Daniel
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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: KVM call agenda for July 27
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:01:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100727170142.GU12387@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C4F0C7A.4030309@redhat.com>
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 07:42:34PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 07/27/2010 07:36 PM, Chris Wright wrote:
> >
> >>If things work there's no reason for the user to go look at the
> >>logs. An exclamation point invites clicking.
> >>
> >>Even better would be an ABRT plugin, so if something goes
> >>(marginally) wrong, the siren pops up and you're invited to report
> >>the bug.
> >Despite some of the ABRT growing pains, ABRT plugin seems like a good
> >idea. I don't know enough of the plugins to know if that requires
> >formatted output and just grepping for some known regexps.
>
> It's annoying to us old hands, but it does give that nice integrated
> system feel that we're missing, and it works even if virt-manager is in
> the background (or if you don't use virt-manager at all).
>
> Given that there's a kerneloops pluging that presumably does similar
> parsing, I don't think it's too hard:
>
> $ size /usr/lib64/abrt/libKerneloopsScanner.so
> text data bss dec hex filename
> 18293 1416 16 19725 4d0d
> /usr/lib64/abrt/libKerneloopsScanner.so
One issue though - a kernel oopps is a clear bug. A failure to start
QEMU is often just a mis-configuration, not a bug. We don't want to spa
developers with ABRT reports everytime a user misconfigures a guest.
Daniel
--
|: Red Hat, Engineering, London -o- http://people.redhat.com/berrange/ :|
|: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org -o- http://deltacloud.org :|
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-27 17:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-26 21:28 KVM call agenda for July 27 Chris Wright
2010-07-26 21:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Chris Wright
2010-07-26 22:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-26 22:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-07-26 23:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-26 23:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-07-27 0:13 ` Alex Williamson
2010-07-27 0:13 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2010-07-27 13:22 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-07-27 13:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2010-07-27 7:19 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-07-27 7:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2010-07-27 13:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-27 13:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-07-27 13:28 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-07-27 13:28 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-07-27 15:22 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-07-27 15:22 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-07-27 15:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-27 15:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-27 15:37 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-07-27 15:37 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-07-27 16:17 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-27 16:17 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-27 16:24 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-07-27 16:24 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-07-27 16:29 ` Chris Wright
2010-07-27 16:29 ` Chris Wright
2010-07-27 16:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-27 16:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-27 16:36 ` Chris Wright
2010-07-27 16:36 ` Chris Wright
2010-07-27 16:42 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-27 16:42 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-27 17:01 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2010-07-27 17:01 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-07-27 17:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-27 17:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-27 16:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-07-27 16:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-07-27 16:47 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-27 16:47 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-27 16:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-27 16:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-28 11:22 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-07-28 11:25 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-07-28 11:25 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-07-28 13:08 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-07-27 11:51 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-07-27 11:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-07-27 13:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-27 13:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-07-27 13:43 ` Cole Robinson
2010-07-27 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cole Robinson
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