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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] writeback: prevent sync livelock with the sync_after timestamp
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:02:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100729150241.GC12690@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100729121423.471866750@intel.com>

  Hi Fengguang,

On Thu 29-07-10 19:51:45, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> The start time in writeback_inodes_wb() is not very useful because it
> slips at each invocation time. Preferrably one _constant_ time shall be
> used at the beginning to cover the whole sync() work.
> 
> The newly dirtied inodes are now guarded at the queue_io() time instead
> of the b_io walk time. This is more natural: non-empty b_io/b_more_io
> means "more work pending".
> 
> The timestamp is now grabbed the sync work submission time, and may be
> further optimized to the initial sync() call time.
  The patch seems to have some issues...

> +	if (wbc->for_sync) {
  For example this is never set. You only set wb->for_sync.

> +		expire_interval = 1;
> +		older_than_this = wbc->sync_after;
  And sync_after is never set either???

> -	if (!(wbc->for_kupdate || wbc->for_background) || list_empty(&wb->b_io))
> +	if (list_empty(&wb->b_io))
>  		queue_io(wb, wbc);
  And what is the purpose of this? It looks as an unrelated change to me.

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] writeback: prevent sync livelock with the sync_after timestamp
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:02:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100729150241.GC12690@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100729121423.471866750@intel.com>

  Hi Fengguang,

On Thu 29-07-10 19:51:45, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> The start time in writeback_inodes_wb() is not very useful because it
> slips at each invocation time. Preferrably one _constant_ time shall be
> used at the beginning to cover the whole sync() work.
> 
> The newly dirtied inodes are now guarded at the queue_io() time instead
> of the b_io walk time. This is more natural: non-empty b_io/b_more_io
> means "more work pending".
> 
> The timestamp is now grabbed the sync work submission time, and may be
> further optimized to the initial sync() call time.
  The patch seems to have some issues...

> +	if (wbc->for_sync) {
  For example this is never set. You only set wb->for_sync.

> +		expire_interval = 1;
> +		older_than_this = wbc->sync_after;
  And sync_after is never set either???

> -	if (!(wbc->for_kupdate || wbc->for_background) || list_empty(&wb->b_io))
> +	if (list_empty(&wb->b_io))
>  		queue_io(wb, wbc);
  And what is the purpose of this? It looks as an unrelated change to me.

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-29 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-29 11:51 [PATCH 0/5] [RFC] transfer ASYNC vmscan writeback IO to the flusher threads Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 11:51 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 11:51 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 11:51 ` [PATCH 1/5] writeback: introduce wbc.for_sync to cover the two sync stages Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 11:51   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 11:51   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 15:04   ` Jan Kara
2010-07-29 15:04     ` Jan Kara
2010-07-30  5:10     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-30  5:10       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 11:51 ` [PATCH 2/5] writeback: stop periodic/background work on seeing sync works Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 11:51   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 11:51   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 16:20   ` Jan Kara
2010-07-29 16:20     ` Jan Kara
2010-07-30  4:03     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-30  4:03       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-02 20:51       ` Jan Kara
2010-08-02 20:51         ` Jan Kara
2010-08-03  3:01         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-03  3:01           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-03 10:55           ` Jan Kara
2010-08-03 10:55             ` Jan Kara
2010-08-03 12:39             ` Jan Kara
2010-08-03 12:39               ` Jan Kara
2010-08-03 12:59               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-03 12:59                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-03 13:18                 ` Jan Kara
2010-08-03 13:18                   ` Jan Kara
2010-08-03 13:22                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-03 13:22                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-03 13:44                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-03 13:44                     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-03 13:48                     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-03 13:48                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-03 14:36             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-03 14:36               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 11:51 ` [PATCH 3/5] writeback: prevent sync livelock with the sync_after timestamp Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 11:51   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 11:51   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 15:02   ` Jan Kara [this message]
2010-07-29 15:02     ` Jan Kara
2010-07-30  5:17     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-30  5:17       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 11:51 ` [PATCH 4/5] writeback: introduce bdi_start_inode_writeback() Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 11:51   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 11:51   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 11:51 ` [PATCH 5/5] vmscan: transfer async file writeback to the flusher Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 11:51   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 11:51   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 16:09 ` [PATCH 0/5] [RFC] transfer ASYNC vmscan writeback IO to the flusher threads Jan Kara
2010-07-29 16:09   ` Jan Kara
2010-07-30  5:34   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-30  5:34     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-29 23:23 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-29 23:23   ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-30  7:58   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-30  7:58     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-30  9:22     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-30  9:22       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-30 12:25       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-30 12:25         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-30 11:12     ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-30 11:12       ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-30 13:18       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-30 13:18         ` Wu Fengguang

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