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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lockup_detector: Make DETECT_HUNT_TASK default depend on LOCKUP_DETECTOR
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 09:01:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100807070135.GC23108@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100806005801.GB5436@nowhere>


(Linus Cc:-ed)

* Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 09:53:03AM +0800, Li Zefan wrote:
> > CONFIG_DETECT_SOFTLOCKUP has been removed, so switch the
> > default value to LOCKUP_DETECTOR.
> > 
> > Also fix the help text of BOOT_PRINTK_DELAY.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>
> > ---
> 
> 
> Acked-by: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
> 
> Thanks.

The thing is, CONFIG_DETECT_SOFTLOCKUP was default-y before, so many people 
had it enabled [and had it forced-enabled if DEBUG_KERNEL was off], even if 
they didnt really want or need it.

So i turned off the new generic watchdog code's default intentionally - as it 
clearly does not cure cancer ;-)

I think distros will enable it, and most testers will as well. Those who dont 
enable it and run into a lockup have an easy option to enable.

Maybe a better change would be to make it more generally available - right now 
it's:

 config LOCKUP_DETECTOR
         bool "Detect Hard and Soft Lockups"
         depends on DEBUG_KERNEL && !S390

which means that it cannot be enabled when DEBUG_KERNEL is off.

So i think we should:

 - Remove the s390 hack and add an ARCH_HAS_LOCKUP_DETECTOR flag
 - Remove the DEBUG_KERNEL dependency

Hm?

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-07  7:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-04  1:53 [PATCH] lockup_detector: Make DETECT_HUNT_TASK default depend on LOCKUP_DETECTOR Li Zefan
2010-08-06  0:58 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-08-07  7:01   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2010-08-08 19:58     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-08-08 21:23       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-08-08 21:47         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-08-09  8:07       ` Heiko Carstens
2010-08-09 13:49         ` Don Zickus
2010-08-09 14:21           ` Heiko Carstens
2010-08-17  6:03       ` Li Zefan

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