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From: Hubert Kario <hka@qbs.com.pl>
To: Ben Chociej <bchociej@gmail.com>
Cc: chris.mason@oracle.com, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	cmm@us.ibm.com, bcchocie@us.ibm.com, mrlupfer@us.ibm.com,
	crscott@us.ibm.com, mlupfer@gmail.com, conscott@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Btrfs-progs: Add hot data support in mkfs
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:56:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201009011356.51609.hka@qbs.com.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinQAa=DujQ2Tm1oi2kVqF9z1RX2_M3SCCO_MKZG@mail.gmail.com>

On Friday 13 August 2010 16:10:24 Ben Chociej wrote:
> It's a good point, of course. Ideally we would be able to prioritize
> data and place them on 15k versus 7.2krpm disks, etc. However you get
> to a point where's there's only incremental benefit. For that reason,
> the scope of this project was simply to take advantage of SSD and HDD
> in hybrid. Of course, you could register the same complaint about the
> ZFS SSD caching: why not take advantage of faster vs. slower spinning
> disks? Unfortunately it just wasn't in the scope of our 12-week
> project here.
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> That's not to say it *shouldn't* be done in the future, of course!
> And, incidentally, you could hack it together at this point by settin=
g
> the /sys/block/<blockdev>/queue/rotational flag to 0 and using it lik=
e
> an SSD. :)

Then why not make the devices with rotational at 0 be the default "SSDs=
" but=20
allow the admin to set manually others, without hacking?

You can have SSDs in a hardware RAID array, this way the kernel may not=
 know=20
if the block device is on flash media or on rotational media...

--=20
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From: Hubert Kario <hka@qbs.com.pl>
To: Ben Chociej <bchociej@gmail.com>
Cc: chris.mason@oracle.com, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	cmm@us.ibm.com, bcchocie@us.ibm.com, mrlupfer@us.ibm.com,
	crscott@us.ibm.com, mlupfer@gmail.com, conscott@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Btrfs-progs: Add hot data support in mkfs
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:56:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201009011356.51609.hka@qbs.com.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinQAa=DujQ2Tm1oi2kVqF9z1RX2_M3SCCO_MKZG@mail.gmail.com>

On Friday 13 August 2010 16:10:24 Ben Chociej wrote:
> It's a good point, of course. Ideally we would be able to prioritize
> data and place them on 15k versus 7.2krpm disks, etc. However you get
> to a point where's there's only incremental benefit. For that reason,
> the scope of this project was simply to take advantage of SSD and HDD
> in hybrid. Of course, you could register the same complaint about the
> ZFS SSD caching: why not take advantage of faster vs. slower spinning
> disks? Unfortunately it just wasn't in the scope of our 12-week
> project here.
> 
> That's not to say it *shouldn't* be done in the future, of course!
> And, incidentally, you could hack it together at this point by setting
> the /sys/block/<blockdev>/queue/rotational flag to 0 and using it like
> an SSD. :)

Then why not make the devices with rotational at 0 be the default "SSDs" but 
allow the admin to set manually others, without hacking?

You can have SSDs in a hardware RAID array, this way the kernel may not know 
if the block device is on flash media or on rotational media...

-- 
Hubert Kario
QBS - Quality Business Software
ul. Ksawerów 30/85
02-656 Warszawa
POLAND
tel. +48 (22) 646-61-51, 646-74-24
fax +48 (22) 646-61-50

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Hubert Kario <hka@qbs.com.pl>
To: Ben Chociej <bchociej@gmail.com>
Cc: chris.mason@oracle.com, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	cmm@us.ibm.com, bcchocie@us.ibm.com, mrlupfer@us.ibm.com,
	crscott@us.ibm.com, mlupfer@gmail.com, conscott@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Btrfs-progs: Add hot data support in mkfs
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:56:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201009011356.51609.hka@qbs.com.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinQAa=DujQ2Tm1oi2kVqF9z1RX2_M3SCCO_MKZG@mail.gmail.com>

On Friday 13 August 2010 16:10:24 Ben Chociej wrote:
> It's a good point, of course. Ideally we would be able to prioritize
> data and place them on 15k versus 7.2krpm disks, etc. However you get
> to a point where's there's only incremental benefit. For that reason,
> the scope of this project was simply to take advantage of SSD and HDD
> in hybrid. Of course, you could register the same complaint about the
> ZFS SSD caching: why not take advantage of faster vs. slower spinning
> disks? Unfortunately it just wasn't in the scope of our 12-week
> project here.
> 
> That's not to say it *shouldn't* be done in the future, of course!
> And, incidentally, you could hack it together at this point by setting
> the /sys/block/<blockdev>/queue/rotational flag to 0 and using it like
> an SSD. :)

Then why not make the devices with rotational at 0 be the default "SSDs" but 
allow the admin to set manually others, without hacking?

You can have SSDs in a hardware RAID array, this way the kernel may not know 
if the block device is on flash media or on rotational media...

-- 
Hubert Kario
QBS - Quality Business Software
ul. Ksawerów 30/85
02-656 Warszawa
POLAND
tel. +48 (22) 646-61-51, 646-74-24
fax +48 (22) 646-61-50
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-01 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-12 22:29 [PATCH 0/2] Btrfs-progs: Add support for hot data migration bchociej
2010-08-12 22:29 ` [PATCH 1/2] Btrfs-progs: Add support for hot data ioctls bchociej
2010-08-13 16:44   ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2010-08-12 22:29 ` [PATCH 2/2] Btrfs-progs: Add hot data support in mkfs bchociej
2010-08-13 13:14   ` Andrey Panin
2010-08-13 14:08     ` Tomasz Torcz
2010-08-13 14:12       ` Ben Chociej
2010-08-13 14:12         ` Ben Chociej
2010-08-13 14:12         ` Ben Chociej
2010-08-13 14:10     ` Ben Chociej
2010-08-13 14:10       ` Ben Chociej
2010-08-13 14:10       ` Ben Chociej
2010-09-01 11:56       ` Hubert Kario [this message]
2010-09-01 11:56         ` Hubert Kario
2010-09-01 11:56         ` Hubert Kario

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