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From: Johannes Stezenbach <js@sig21.net>
To: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: block cache replacement strategy?
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:00:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100909120044.GA27765@sig21.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100907133429.GB3430@sig21.net>

On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 03:34:29PM +0200, Johannes Stezenbach wrote:
> 
> during some simple disk read throughput testing I observed
> caching behaviour that doesn't seem right.  The machine
> has 2G of RAM and AMD Athlon 4850e, x86_64 kernel but 32bit
> userspace, Linux 2.6.35.4.  It seems that contents of the
> block cache are not evicted to make room for other blocks.
> (Or something like that, I have no real clue about this.)
> 
> Since this is a rather artificial test I'm not too worried,
> but it looks strange to me so I thought I better report it.

C'mon guys, please comment.  Is this a bug or not?
Or is my question too silly?


Johannes

> zzz:~# echo 3 >/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches 
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 13.9454 s, 75.2 MB/s
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 0.92799 s, 1.1 GB/s
> 
> OK, seems like the blocks are cached. But:
> 
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000 skip=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 13.8375 s, 75.8 MB/s
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000 skip=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 13.8429 s, 75.7 MB/s
> 
> Even if I let 15min pass and repeat the dd command
> several times, I cannot see any caching effects, it
> stays at ~75 MB/s.
> 
> zzz:~# cat /proc/meminfo 
> MemTotal:        1793272 kB
> MemFree:           15216 kB
> Buffers:         1378820 kB
> Cached:            20080 kB
> SwapCached:            0 kB
> Active:           792720 kB
> Inactive:         758832 kB
> Active(anon):      91716 kB
> Inactive(anon):    64652 kB
> Active(file):     701004 kB
> Inactive(file):   694180 kB
> 
> But then:
> 
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 5.23983 s, 200 MB/s
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 0.908284 s, 1.2 GB/s
> 
> zzz:~# cat /proc/meminfo 
> MemTotal:        1793272 kB
> MemFree:           16168 kB
> Buffers:         1377308 kB
> Cached:            20660 kB
> SwapCached:            0 kB
> Active:          1140384 kB
> Inactive:         410236 kB
> Active(anon):      91716 kB
> Inactive(anon):    64652 kB
> Active(file):    1048668 kB
> Inactive(file):   345584 kB
> 
> 
> And finally:
> 
> zzz:~# echo 3 >/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000 skip=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 13.948 s, 75.2 MB/s
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000 skip=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 0.985031 s, 1.1 GB/s
> 
> 
> Now these blocks get cached but then the others don't:
> 
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 13.9394 s, 75.2 MB/s
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 13.9403 s, 75.2 MB/s

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Johannes Stezenbach <js@sig21.net>
To: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: block cache replacement strategy?
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:00:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100909120044.GA27765@sig21.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100907133429.GB3430@sig21.net>

On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 03:34:29PM +0200, Johannes Stezenbach wrote:
> 
> during some simple disk read throughput testing I observed
> caching behaviour that doesn't seem right.  The machine
> has 2G of RAM and AMD Athlon 4850e, x86_64 kernel but 32bit
> userspace, Linux 2.6.35.4.  It seems that contents of the
> block cache are not evicted to make room for other blocks.
> (Or something like that, I have no real clue about this.)
> 
> Since this is a rather artificial test I'm not too worried,
> but it looks strange to me so I thought I better report it.

C'mon guys, please comment.  Is this a bug or not?
Or is my question too silly?


Johannes

> zzz:~# echo 3 >/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches 
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 13.9454 s, 75.2 MB/s
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 0.92799 s, 1.1 GB/s
> 
> OK, seems like the blocks are cached. But:
> 
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000 skip=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 13.8375 s, 75.8 MB/s
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000 skip=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 13.8429 s, 75.7 MB/s
> 
> Even if I let 15min pass and repeat the dd command
> several times, I cannot see any caching effects, it
> stays at ~75 MB/s.
> 
> zzz:~# cat /proc/meminfo 
> MemTotal:        1793272 kB
> MemFree:           15216 kB
> Buffers:         1378820 kB
> Cached:            20080 kB
> SwapCached:            0 kB
> Active:           792720 kB
> Inactive:         758832 kB
> Active(anon):      91716 kB
> Inactive(anon):    64652 kB
> Active(file):     701004 kB
> Inactive(file):   694180 kB
> 
> But then:
> 
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 5.23983 s, 200 MB/s
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 0.908284 s, 1.2 GB/s
> 
> zzz:~# cat /proc/meminfo 
> MemTotal:        1793272 kB
> MemFree:           16168 kB
> Buffers:         1377308 kB
> Cached:            20660 kB
> SwapCached:            0 kB
> Active:          1140384 kB
> Inactive:         410236 kB
> Active(anon):      91716 kB
> Inactive(anon):    64652 kB
> Active(file):    1048668 kB
> Inactive(file):   345584 kB
> 
> 
> And finally:
> 
> zzz:~# echo 3 >/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000 skip=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 13.948 s, 75.2 MB/s
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000 skip=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 0.985031 s, 1.1 GB/s
> 
> 
> Now these blocks get cached but then the others don't:
> 
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 13.9394 s, 75.2 MB/s
> zzz:~# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1000
> 1000+0 records in
> 1000+0 records out
> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 13.9403 s, 75.2 MB/s

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-09 12:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-07 13:34 block cache replacement strategy? Johannes Stezenbach
2010-09-07 13:34 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2010-09-09 12:00 ` Johannes Stezenbach [this message]
2010-09-09 12:00   ` Johannes Stezenbach
2010-09-10 10:02   ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-10 10:02     ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-10 16:02     ` Johannes Stezenbach
2010-09-10 16:02       ` Johannes Stezenbach
2010-09-13 15:21       ` Johannes Stezenbach
2010-09-13 15:21         ` Johannes Stezenbach
2010-09-13 19:09         ` dave b
2010-09-13 19:09           ` dave b
2010-09-13 19:26           ` Johannes Stezenbach
2010-09-13 19:26             ` Johannes Stezenbach
2010-09-30 23:27 ` Jan Kara
2010-09-30 23:27   ` Jan Kara
2010-10-01 13:05   ` Johannes Stezenbach
2010-10-01 13:05     ` Johannes Stezenbach

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