[U-Boot] Coldfire Architecture and SELF

[U-Boot] Coldfire Architecture and SELF

[SANCHEZ]

Hi all, 

 

I wanted to develop a personalized U-Boot to my MCF54455 Coldfire V4 microcontroller. 

 

I got the sources from DENX FTP server and now I wanted to get the SELF but I don't really know wich one should I download. Maybe someone could push me in the right direction?. Thanks.

 

Cheers:

 

Guillermo Sanchez Vitorica

 

Email: gsanchez at gamesacorp.com

 

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[U-Boot] Coldfire Architecture and SELF

[Wolfgang Wegner]

Hi,

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 02:15:14PM +0200, SANCHEZ VITORICA, GUILLERMO wrote:
> Hi all, 
> 
> I wanted to develop a personalized U-Boot to my MCF54455 Coldfire V4 microcontroller. 
> 
> I got the sources from DENX FTP server and now I wanted to get the SELF but I don't really know wich one should I download. Maybe someone could push me in the right direction?. Thanks.

I am not sure what you want to do. Use U-Boot from the git repository,
this should be up to date for MCF5445x. Use a decent toolchain - for
U-Boot, I always had good results with the pre-compiled versions from
CodeSourcery. Then you should be set to compile your own U-Boot with
minimal effort.

Coming to Linux (which you seem to target with SELF?), my experience is
you have to use the horribly outdated LTIB package provided by Freescale
because they did not push any of their changes back to mainline.
I would be happy if anybody could prove me wrong in this regard, but this
is my experience from almost 1 year ago until May 2010.

Regards,
Wolfgang

[U-Boot] Coldfire Architecture and SELF

[Wolfgang Wegner]

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 02:38:55PM +0200, Wolfgang Wegner wrote:
> 
> Coming to Linux (which you seem to target with SELF?), my experience is
> you have to use the horribly outdated LTIB package provided by Freescale
> because they did not push any of their changes back to mainline.

Just to remove any ambiguity here: This refers to Coldfire, it seems
to be completely different for the other architectures.

Regards,
Wolfgang

[U-Boot] Coldfire Architecture and SELF

[SANCHEZ]

Hi again,

Thank you for your fast answers. 

Sorry. I was reading the manual in the U-Boot webpage and miss understood some of the topics. I just wanted to get the develop tools in order to compile and develop the U-Boot for the MCF54455. The manual points something (toolchain?) called ELDK that runs under Linux, but currently I'm tied to Windows as host. I don't know the version to install either since I can't find the Coldfire v4 architecture file in the FTP server.

Any development platform or tip will be welcomed. By the way, right now I only have intalled CodeWarrior for Coldfire v7.2 and Code Composer Studio 3.3.1. Should I try with Codesourcery?

Cheers,
 
Guillermo Sanchez Vitorica


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-----Mensaje original-----
De: Wolfgang Wegner [mailto:wolfgang at leila.ping.de] 
Enviado el: viernes, 24 de septiembre de 2010 14:54
Para: SANCHEZ VITORICA, GUILLERMO
CC: u-boot at lists.denx.de
Asunto: Re: [U-Boot] Coldfire Architecture and SELF

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 02:38:55PM +0200, Wolfgang Wegner wrote:
> 
> Coming to Linux (which you seem to target with SELF?), my experience is
> you have to use the horribly outdated LTIB package provided by Freescale
> because they did not push any of their changes back to mainline.

Just to remove any ambiguity here: This refers to Coldfire, it seems
to be completely different for the other architectures.

Regards,
Wolfgang

[U-Boot] Coldfire Architecture and SELF

[Wolfgang Wegner]

Hi,

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 08:43:00AM +0200, SANCHEZ VITORICA, GUILLERMO wrote:
> Hi again,
> 
> Thank you for your fast answers. 
> 
> Sorry. I was reading the manual in the U-Boot webpage and miss understood some of the topics. I just wanted to get the develop tools in order to compile and develop the U-Boot for the MCF54455. The manual points something (toolchain?) called ELDK that runs under Linux, but currently I'm tied to Windows as host. I don't know the version to install either since I can't find the Coldfire v4 architecture file in the FTP server.
> 
> Any development platform or tip will be welcomed. By the way, right now I only have intalled CodeWarrior for Coldfire v7.2 and Code Composer Studio 3.3.1. Should I try with Codesourcery?

of course, the best solution is to switch to Linux as a development
host. ;-)
There are many possibilities, but I think the second best possibility
is using coLinux to set up a "virtual" Linux on top of your Windows box. *)
In this virtual Linux, you can do anything you would do in a native
Linux box, including using LTIB and ELDK (is there a version of the
latter for coldfire meanwhile?!).

Setting up coLinux on your own can be a bit tricky. Maybe somebody can
recommend a pre-built image for it that does not have some strange
non-standard default settings?

Regards,
Wolfgang

*) While coLinux is really fast for most applications, it has some
performance issues when using graphical tools because (to my knowledge)
there is no fast and free X-Server for Windows. However, in my experience
this is no real problem because the applications I used (editor, debugger)
were not so demanding in this respect. Using such a bloated thing like
eclipse is definitely not something you want to do with this combination,
but IMHO this is more a conceptual problem of Eclipse (or Java?) than
coLinux...

[U-Boot] Coldfire Architecture and SELF

[Ben Warren]

Hello,

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Wolfgang Wegner <wolfgang@leila.ping.de>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 08:43:00AM +0200, SANCHEZ VITORICA, GUILLERMO
> wrote:
> > Hi again,
> >
> > Thank you for your fast answers.
> >
> > Sorry. I was reading the manual in the U-Boot webpage and miss understood
> some of the topics. I just wanted to get the develop tools in order to
> compile and develop the U-Boot for the MCF54455. The manual points something
> (toolchain?) called ELDK that runs under Linux, but currently I'm tied to
> Windows as host. I don't know the version to install either since I can't
> find the Coldfire v4 architecture file in the FTP server.
> >
> > Any development platform or tip will be welcomed. By the way, right now I
> only have intalled CodeWarrior for Coldfire v7.2 and Code Composer Studio
> 3.3.1. Should I try with Codesourcery?
>
> of course, the best solution is to switch to Linux as a development
> host. ;-)
> There are many possibilities, but I think the second best possibility
> is using coLinux to set up a "virtual" Linux on top of your Windows box. *)
> In this virtual Linux, you can do anything you would do in a native
> Linux box, including using LTIB and ELDK (is there a version of the
> latter for coldfire meanwhile?!).
>
> Better yet, just install Virtual Box (virtualbox.org) and Ubuntu.  Compile
time might be a bit slower than coLinux, but it's soooo easy.


> Setting up coLinux on your own can be a bit tricky. Maybe somebody can
> recommend a pre-built image for it that does not have some strange
> non-standard default settings?
>

Regards,
> Wolfgang
>

regards,
Ben

[U-Boot] Coldfire Architecture and SELF

[SANCHEZ]

Hi again,

 

So, if I have got it straight, with VirtualBox + Ubuntu + ELDK + U-BOOT sources I can start developing U-BOOT for the MCF5445EVB?

 

Cheers,

 

Guillermo Sanchez Vitorica

 

Email: gsanchez at gamesacorp.com

 

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________________________________

De: Ben Warren [mailto:biggerbadderben at gmail.com] 
Enviado el: lunes, 27 de septiembre de 2010 15:53
Para: Wolfgang Wegner
CC: SANCHEZ VITORICA, GUILLERMO; u-boot at lists.denx.de
Asunto: Re: [U-Boot] Coldfire Architecture and SELF

 

Hello,

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Wolfgang Wegner <wolfgang@leila.ping.de> wrote:

Hi,


On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 08:43:00AM +0200, SANCHEZ VITORICA, GUILLERMO wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> Thank you for your fast answers.
>
> Sorry. I was reading the manual in the U-Boot webpage and miss understood some of the topics. I just wanted to get the develop tools in order to compile and develop the U-Boot for the MCF54455. The manual points something (toolchain?) called ELDK that runs under Linux, but currently I'm tied to Windows as host. I don't know the version to install either since I can't find the Coldfire v4 architecture file in the FTP server.
>
> Any development platform or tip will be welcomed. By the way, right now I only have intalled CodeWarrior for Coldfire v7.2 and Code Composer Studio 3.3.1. Should I try with Codesourcery?

of course, the best solution is to switch to Linux as a development
host. ;-)
There are many possibilities, but I think the second best possibility
is using coLinux to set up a "virtual" Linux on top of your Windows box. *)
In this virtual Linux, you can do anything you would do in a native
Linux box, including using LTIB and ELDK (is there a version of the
latter for coldfire meanwhile?!).

Better yet, just install Virtual Box (virtualbox.org) and Ubuntu.  Compile time might be a bit slower than coLinux, but it's soooo easy.

 

	Setting up coLinux on your own can be a bit tricky. Maybe somebody can
	recommend a pre-built image for it that does not have some strange
	non-standard default settings?
	  

	Regards,
	Wolfgang

 

regards,

Ben 

[U-Boot] Coldfire Architecture and SELF

[Ben Warren]

Hello,

On Monday, September 27, 2010, SANCHEZ VITORICA, GUILLERMO
<GSANCHEZ@gamesacorp.com> wrote:
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> Hi again,
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> So, if I have got it
> straight, with VirtualBox + Ubuntu + ELDK + U-BOOT sources I can start
> developing U-BOOT for the MCF5445EVB?
>
>
Yes, that's how I'd do it if in your situation.

Regards,

[U-Boot] Coldfire Architecture and SELF

[SANCHEZ]

Hello,

One last thing on this topic. Could I use also CoudeSourcery Lite +
Coldfire toolchain ? 

Kind regards,

Guillermo


-----Mensaje original-----
De: Ben Warren [mailto:biggerbadderben at gmail.com] 
Enviado el: martes, 28 de septiembre de 2010 4:30
Para: SANCHEZ VITORICA, GUILLERMO
CC: Wolfgang Wegner; u-boot at lists.denx.de
Asunto: Re: [U-Boot] Coldfire Architecture and SELF

Hello,

On Monday, September 27, 2010, SANCHEZ VITORICA, GUILLERMO
<GSANCHEZ@gamesacorp.com> wrote:
>
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>
>
>
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> Hi again,
>
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>
> So, if I have got it
> straight, with VirtualBox + Ubuntu + ELDK + U-BOOT sources I can start
> developing U-BOOT for the MCF5445EVB?
>
>
Yes, that's how I'd do it if in your situation.

Regards,

[U-Boot] Coldfire Architecture and SELF

[Wolfgang Wegner]

Hi,

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 09:09:56AM +0200, SANCHEZ VITORICA, GUILLERMO wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> One last thing on this topic. Could I use also CoudeSourcery Lite +
> Coldfire toolchain ? 

for U-Boot: yes
For Linux (ELDK/LTIB), it is IMHO better to rely on the toolchain
provided with the ELDK/LTIB package you use.

Regards,
Wolfgang

> 
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Ben Warren [mailto:biggerbadderben at gmail.com] 
> Enviado el: martes, 28 de septiembre de 2010 4:30
> Para: SANCHEZ VITORICA, GUILLERMO
> CC: Wolfgang Wegner; u-boot at lists.denx.de
> Asunto: Re: [U-Boot] Coldfire Architecture and SELF
> 
> Hello,
> 
> On Monday, September 27, 2010, SANCHEZ VITORICA, GUILLERMO
> <GSANCHEZ@gamesacorp.com> wrote:
> >
> >
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> > Hi again,
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> > So, if I have got it
> > straight, with VirtualBox + Ubuntu + ELDK + U-BOOT sources I can start
> > developing U-BOOT for the MCF5445EVB?
> >
> >
> Yes, that's how I'd do it if in your situation.
> 
> Regards,

[U-Boot] Coldfire Architecture and SELF

[SANCHEZ]

Hello all,

I feel a little bit silly for asking this but, is the Coldfire
Architecture supported by ELDK?

Kind regards,
 
Guillermo Sanchez Vitorica

[U-Boot] Coldfire Architecture and SELF

[Wolfgang Denk]

Dear "SANCHEZ VITORICA, GUILLERMO",

In message <3694E0885CB1D844AAF54F75DBDC255834D5E0@MAIL1.usr.corp.gamesa.es> you wrote:
> 
> I feel a little bit silly for asking this but, is the Coldfire
> Architecture supported by ELDK?

No, it is not. We support ARM, Power, and MIPS.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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[U-Boot] Coldfire Architecture and SELF

[Wolfgang Denk]

Dear "SANCHEZ VITORICA, GUILLERMO",

In message <3694E0885CB1D844AAF54F75DBDC255831AC58@MAIL1.usr.corp.gamesa.es> you wrote:
> 
> I wanted to develop a personalized U-Boot to my MCF54455 Coldfire V4
> microcontroller. 

You are welcome.

> I got the sources from DENX FTP server and now I wanted to get the SELF
> but I don't really know wich one should I download. Maybe someone could
> push me in the right direction?. Thanks.

What exactly do you mean by "SELF" in this context?

To me, "SELF" means "Simple Embedded Linux Framwork", which is the
name for a small root file system for embedded Linux targets; as such,
it is completely unrelated to U-Boot, so I fail to understand what you
might be looking for.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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