Re: [SPAM Re: [mlmmj] Cannot remove mail adress

Re: [SPAM Re: [mlmmj] Cannot remove mail adress

[Christian Gleerup]

  Ok, I see them now, but.

the concerned email adress i can't delete, lives in

/var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d/c

See the following:
/$ sudo cat /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d/c | grep cromozon
cromozon@swn.nu
cromozon@sawsaw.redirectme.net

/$ sudo /usr/bin/mlmmj-unsub -L /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/ -a cromozon@sawsaw.redirectme.net -s
Changing to uid 65534, owner of /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/.
/$ sudo /usr/bin/mlmmj-unsub -L /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/ -a cromozon@swn.nu -s
Changing to uid 65534, owner of /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/.

/$ sudo cat /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d/c | grep cromozon
cromozon@swn.nu

Note, If I ommit the -s when i unsubscribe, I get an email with the text from unsub-notsubscribed



Den 9/29/2010 8:20 AM, Mads Martin Jørgensen skrev:
> Look in:
>
> /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d/
>
> where all files containing emailadresses are subscribers.
>

Re: [SPAM Re: [mlmmj] Cannot remove mail adress

[Christian Gleerup]

  All the files are owned by the user nobody as you correctly guessed,
to be more specific,

The directories are owned by
* nobody : nobody *

most of the files in /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d have 
ownership
* nobody : root *
few of the files have ownership
* nobody : nobody *

all the files have ownership u=rw

So I am not sure this is related to ownership, since I could add and 
delete one adress to /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d/c
while another adress in the same file would move.

I still recieve news letters on that adress that i can't delete, and if 
I try tu unsub without the -s argument, i recieve an email stating that 
I am not subscribed

I tried to add the problematic that i can't delete, and watch the following.
/$ sudo /usr/bin/mlmmj-sub -L /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/ -a 
cromozon@swn.nu
[sudo] password for fjernsynet:
Changing to uid 65534, owner of /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/.
/$ sudo cat /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d/c | grep cromozon
cromozon@swn.nu
cromozon@swn.nu

Note that the mail adress shows up 2 times!
/var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d/c thus contains the same mail 
adress two times!

if I unsubcribe, I get down to one again,
Is that supposed to happen?

I actually don't know what MTA the server use, but the file 
/var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/control/verp contains  postfix. (I have 
taken over administration of the server, but don't really no much about 
mail)


Den 9/30/2010 12:42 AM, Ben Schmidt skrev:
> Have a look at the permissions:
>
> ls -ld /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev
> ls -ld /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d
> ls -l /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d
>
> Do the owners of all the directories and files match? (They should be
> owned by the user that Mlmmj runs as when invoked by your MTA.) Are they
> all writeable by the owner?
>
> Commands like
>
> chown -R nobody /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev
> chmod -R u+rw /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev
>
> can be used to set the permissions of everything in the list directory.
> I've guessed 'nobody' because user ID 65534 is likely to be that user,
> but you may need to adjust that. Are you using Postfix? If so, and
> you're using it simply, it is likely that it is correct for 'nobody' to
> be used.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Ben.

Re: [SPAM Re: [mlmmj] Cannot remove mail adress

[Franky Van Liedekerke]

On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:01:39 +0200
Christian Gleerup <christian.gleerup@swn.nu> wrote:

>   All the files are owned by the user nobody as you correctly guessed,
> to be more specific,
> 
> The directories are owned by
> * nobody : nobody *
> 
> most of the files in /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d have 
> ownership
> * nobody : root *
> few of the files have ownership
> * nobody : nobody *
> 
> all the files have ownership u=rw
> 
> So I am not sure this is related to ownership, since I could add and 
> delete one adress to /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d/c
> while another adress in the same file would move.
> 
> I still recieve news letters on that adress that i can't delete, and
> if I try tu unsub without the -s argument, i recieve an email stating
> that I am not subscribed
> 
> I tried to add the problematic that i can't delete, and watch the
> following. /$ sudo /usr/bin/mlmmj-sub -L /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/
> -a cromozon@swn.nu
> [sudo] password for fjernsynet:
> Changing to uid 65534, owner of /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/.
> /$ sudo cat /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d/c | grep
> cromozon cromozon@swn.nu
> cromozon@swn.nu
> 
> Note that the mail adress shows up 2 times!
> /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d/c thus contains the same
> mail adress two times!
> 

Is it possible that the unsubsribale address has some white spaces
behind it (or other invisible characters)
in /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d/c?

Franky

Re: [SPAM Re: [mlmmj] Cannot remove mail adress

[Ben Schmidt]

On 1/10/10 7:37 AM, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:01:39 +0200
> Christian Gleerup<christian.gleerup@swn.nu>  wrote:
>
>>    All the files are owned by the user nobody as you correctly guessed,
>> to be more specific,
>>
>> The directories are owned by
>> * nobody : nobody *
>>
>> most of the files in /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d have
>> ownership
>> * nobody : root *
>> few of the files have ownership
>> * nobody : nobody *
>>
>> all the files have ownership u=rw
>>
>> So I am not sure this is related to ownership, since I could add and
>> delete one adress to /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d/c
>> while another adress in the same file would move.
>>
>> I still recieve news letters on that adress that i can't delete, and
>> if I try tu unsub without the -s argument, i recieve an email stating
>> that I am not subscribed
>>
>> I tried to add the problematic that i can't delete, and watch the
>> following. /$ sudo /usr/bin/mlmmj-sub -L /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/
>> -a cromozon@swn.nu
>> [sudo] password for fjernsynet:
>> Changing to uid 65534, owner of /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/.
>> /$ sudo cat /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d/c | grep
>> cromozon cromozon@swn.nu
>> cromozon@swn.nu
>>
>> Note that the mail adress shows up 2 times!
>> /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d/c thus contains the same
>> mail adress two times!
>>
>
> Is it possible that the unsubsribale address has some white spaces
> behind it (or other invisible characters)
> in /var/spool/mlmmj/nyhedsbrev/subscribers.d/c?

I agree.

Also, have you tried unsubscribing through the mail system (assuming
it's not a closed list), i.e. by sending mail to
nyhedsbrev+unsubscribe@... from the problematic address?

Finally...I should say if it's just this one address, not a recurring
problem that you need to fix, it wouldn't hurt to find the line in the
subscribers.d/c file and just remove it with a text editor.

It would be good to know if that illusive extra whitespace is there
though, regardless, particularly if you know how the address was
subscribed, because there may be a bug in Mlmmj we can track down, or an
improvement we can make to avoid it happening again.

Smiles,

Ben.