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From: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
To: "David VomLehn (dvomlehn)" <dvomlehn@cisco.com>
Cc: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>,
	ddaney@caviumnetworks.com, prasun.kapoor@caviumnetworks.com,
	linux-mips@linux-mips.org, devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: Device Tree questions WRT MIPS/Octeon SOCs.
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:48:50 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101016034850.GC21170@angua.secretlab.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7A9214B0DEB2074FBCA688B30B04400D01B50901@XMB-RCD-208.cisco.com>

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:30:48PM -0500, David VomLehn (dvomlehn) wrote:
> If this is really a question of needing to dynamically generate the
> device tree, then you have no choice. It's worth mentioning, though,
> that the device tree compiler (dtc) does have the ability to include
> files, making it easier to create and maintain device trees that are
> static but which share devices.

Yes.  In fact, John Bonesio is working right now of polishing the last
details of this to allow for example a board-level .dts file to
include an SoC level .dts and add/remove/modify nodes as needed.
Should be sorted out in a week or two.  Once that is done then we'll
update the copy of dtc in the kernel (probably looking at the 2.6.38
timeframe realistically).

g.

> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: linux-mips-bounce@linux-mips.org [mailto:linux-mips-bounce@linux-
> > mips.org] On Behalf Of Grant Likely
> > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 6:29 PM
> > To: Warner Losh
> > Cc: ddaney@caviumnetworks.com; prasun.kapoor@caviumnetworks.com; linux-
> > mips@linux-mips.org; devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org
> > Subject: Re: Device Tree questions WRT MIPS/Octeon SOCs.
> > 
> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> > > In message: <AANLkTi=UM2p26JJMqv-
> > cNh8xACS_KPf_dCst5cgmh5VR@mail.gmail.com>
> > >            Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca> writes:
> > > : Overall the plan makes sense, however I would suggest the
> > following.
> > > : instead of 'live' modifying the tree, another option is to carry a
> > set
> > > : of 'stock' device trees in the kernel; one per board.  Of course
> > this
> > > : assumes that your current ad-hoc code is keying on the specific
> > board.
> > > :  If it is interpreting data provided by the firmware, then your
> > > : suggestion of modifying a single stock tree probably makes more
> > sense,
> > > : or possibly a combination of the too.  In general you should avoid
> > > : live modification as much as possible.
> > >
> > > The one draw back on this is that there's lots of different "stock"
> > > boards that the Cavium Octeon SDK supports.  These will be difficult
> > > to drag along for every kernel.  And they'd be mostly the same to,
> > > which is why I think that David is suggesting the live modification
> > > thing...
> > 
> > Okay.  Do what makes the most sense for your platform.
> > 
> > g.
> 

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Grant Likely <grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org>
To: "David VomLehn (dvomlehn)"
	<dvomlehn-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: prasun.kapoor-M3mlKVOIwJVv6pq1l3V1OdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mips-6z/3iImG2C8G8FEW9MqTrA@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
	ddaney-M3mlKVOIwJVv6pq1l3V1OdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Device Tree questions WRT MIPS/Octeon SOCs.
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:48:50 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101016034850.GC21170@angua.secretlab.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7A9214B0DEB2074FBCA688B30B04400D01B50901-2KNrN6/GZtCQwNoRDPPJJaBKnGwkPULj@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:30:48PM -0500, David VomLehn (dvomlehn) wrote:
> If this is really a question of needing to dynamically generate the
> device tree, then you have no choice. It's worth mentioning, though,
> that the device tree compiler (dtc) does have the ability to include
> files, making it easier to create and maintain device trees that are
> static but which share devices.

Yes.  In fact, John Bonesio is working right now of polishing the last
details of this to allow for example a board-level .dts file to
include an SoC level .dts and add/remove/modify nodes as needed.
Should be sorted out in a week or two.  Once that is done then we'll
update the copy of dtc in the kernel (probably looking at the 2.6.38
timeframe realistically).

g.

> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: linux-mips-bounce-6z/3iImG2C8G8FEW9MqTrA@public.gmane.org [mailto:linux-mips-bounce@linux-
> > mips.org] On Behalf Of Grant Likely
> > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 6:29 PM
> > To: Warner Losh
> > Cc: ddaney-M3mlKVOIwJVv6pq1l3V1OdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org; prasun.kapoor-M3mlKVOIwJVv6pq1l3V1OdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org; linux-
> > mips-6z/3iImG2C8G8FEW9MqTrA@public.gmane.org; devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org
> > Subject: Re: Device Tree questions WRT MIPS/Octeon SOCs.
> > 
> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Warner Losh <imp-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > In message: <AANLkTi=UM2p26JJMqv-
> > cNh8xACS_KPf_dCst5cgmh5VR-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
> > >            Grant Likely <grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org> writes:
> > > : Overall the plan makes sense, however I would suggest the
> > following.
> > > : instead of 'live' modifying the tree, another option is to carry a
> > set
> > > : of 'stock' device trees in the kernel; one per board.  Of course
> > this
> > > : assumes that your current ad-hoc code is keying on the specific
> > board.
> > > :  If it is interpreting data provided by the firmware, then your
> > > : suggestion of modifying a single stock tree probably makes more
> > sense,
> > > : or possibly a combination of the too.  In general you should avoid
> > > : live modification as much as possible.
> > >
> > > The one draw back on this is that there's lots of different "stock"
> > > boards that the Cavium Octeon SDK supports.  These will be difficult
> > > to drag along for every kernel.  And they'd be mostly the same to,
> > > which is why I think that David is suggesting the live modification
> > > thing...
> > 
> > Okay.  Do what makes the most sense for your platform.
> > 
> > g.
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-10-16  3:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-15  0:17 Device Tree questions WRT MIPS/Octeon SOCs David Daney
2010-10-15  0:17 ` David Daney
2010-10-15  0:32 ` Grant Likely
2010-10-15  0:32   ` Grant Likely
2010-10-15  1:13   ` Warner Losh
2010-10-15  1:13     ` Warner Losh
2010-10-15  1:29     ` Grant Likely
2010-10-15  1:29       ` Grant Likely
2010-10-15 17:30       ` David VomLehn (dvomlehn)
2010-10-15 17:30         ` David VomLehn (dvomlehn)
2010-10-15 17:42         ` David Daney
2010-10-15 17:42           ` David Daney
2010-10-15 17:48           ` David VomLehn (dvomlehn)
2010-10-15 17:48             ` David VomLehn (dvomlehn)
2010-10-16  3:45             ` Grant Likely
2010-10-16  3:45               ` Grant Likely
2010-10-16  6:24               ` David Gibson
2010-10-16  6:24                 ` David Gibson
2010-10-16  6:20           ` David Gibson
2010-10-16  6:20             ` David Gibson
2010-10-16  3:48         ` Grant Likely [this message]
2010-10-16  3:48           ` Grant Likely

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