From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Francis Moreau <francis.moro-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>,
Peter Zijlstra
<a.p.zijlstra-/NLkJaSkS4VmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
<acme-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Stephane Eranian
<eranian-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
linux-perf-users-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: perf tools miscellaneous questions
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 22:40:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101107214025.GD11134@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2lj59sc7a.fsf-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 09:52:09AM +0100, Francis Moreau wrote:
> Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> > On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 08:28:59PM +0100, Francis Moreau wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I'm trying to use perf-tools and also to learn some internals about
> >> them. So I prefer to ask all of them in one email.
> >>
> >> The first one is about the list of pre-defined events given by
> >> perf-list. I couldn't find any documentations that describes these
> >> events so excuse me if the question is stupid.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry about that. We indeed need to improve a lot the documentation.
> > May be this particular part could come with the future sysfs exposure
> > of the events.
> >
>
> No problem, but yes this part should be documented somewhere. And I
> think the syntax of event too, specially the modifier like 'u' or 'p'.
Ah that is documented in "man perf-list".
>
> >>
> >> What's the difference between 'cpu-clock' and 'task-clock' event ?
> >
> >
> > cpu-clock is based on the total time spent on the cpu. task-clock is
> > based only on the time spent on the profiled task, so that doesn't count
> > time spent on other tasks, it has a per thread granularity.
>
> Ok, so 'cpu-clock' could have been named 'proc-clock' even though a task
> is a processus on Linux.
Well, this is a matter of opinion probably, I think cpu-clock defines
better its role.
>
> [...]
>
> >> The last question is about the source code annotation done by
> >> perf-report. I'm using it to locate the place in my code that generates
> >> the most data cache miss events. I can read this during a perf-report
> >> session:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >> 0.00 : df215: c3 retq
> >> 0.00 : df216: 66 2e 0f 1f 84 00 00 nopw %cs:0x0(%rax,%rax,1)
> >> 0.00 : df21d: 00 00 00
> >> 10.00 : df220: 48 8b 75 00 mov 0x0(%rbp),%rsi
> >> 80.00 : df224: 48 89 df mov %rbx,%rdi
> >> 0.00 : df227: 41 ff d4 callq *%r12
> >> 0.00 : df22a: 85 c0 test %eax,%eax
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> If I read the output correctly, most of the dcache misses are coming from
> >> 'mov %rbx, %rdi', and AFAIK this intruction can't generate any dcache
> >> miss. What am I missing ?
> >
> >
> > Perhaps you need pebs to get the very precise location on your event.
> >
> > perf stat -e cache-misses:up,l1d-loads-misses:up true
> >
> >
> > I think the more you add 'p', the more precise it is.
> > Like:
> >
> > perf stat -e cache-misses:uppp,l1d-loads-misses:uppp true
> >
> > Not sure how much it will accept though :)
>
> Well it doesn't want one actually:
>
> $ perf stat -v -e cache-misses:up true
> Error: counter 0, sys_perf_event_open() syscall returned with -1 (No
> space left on device)
> No permission to collect stats.
> Consider tweaking /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid.
>
> Where can I find a description of PEB ?
I have the same problem. But running perf record with this :p
works for me. Which is what we want: pebs is useful for sampling,
not counting-only.
Ah and that won't work if you don't run some intel CPU I think.
Check you have PEBS support in /proc/cpuinfo
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Francis Moreau <francis.moro@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: perf tools miscellaneous questions
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 22:40:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101107214025.GD11134@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2lj59sc7a.fsf@gmail.com>
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 09:52:09AM +0100, Francis Moreau wrote:
> Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 08:28:59PM +0100, Francis Moreau wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I'm trying to use perf-tools and also to learn some internals about
> >> them. So I prefer to ask all of them in one email.
> >>
> >> The first one is about the list of pre-defined events given by
> >> perf-list. I couldn't find any documentations that describes these
> >> events so excuse me if the question is stupid.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry about that. We indeed need to improve a lot the documentation.
> > May be this particular part could come with the future sysfs exposure
> > of the events.
> >
>
> No problem, but yes this part should be documented somewhere. And I
> think the syntax of event too, specially the modifier like 'u' or 'p'.
Ah that is documented in "man perf-list".
>
> >>
> >> What's the difference between 'cpu-clock' and 'task-clock' event ?
> >
> >
> > cpu-clock is based on the total time spent on the cpu. task-clock is
> > based only on the time spent on the profiled task, so that doesn't count
> > time spent on other tasks, it has a per thread granularity.
>
> Ok, so 'cpu-clock' could have been named 'proc-clock' even though a task
> is a processus on Linux.
Well, this is a matter of opinion probably, I think cpu-clock defines
better its role.
>
> [...]
>
> >> The last question is about the source code annotation done by
> >> perf-report. I'm using it to locate the place in my code that generates
> >> the most data cache miss events. I can read this during a perf-report
> >> session:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >> 0.00 : df215: c3 retq
> >> 0.00 : df216: 66 2e 0f 1f 84 00 00 nopw %cs:0x0(%rax,%rax,1)
> >> 0.00 : df21d: 00 00 00
> >> 10.00 : df220: 48 8b 75 00 mov 0x0(%rbp),%rsi
> >> 80.00 : df224: 48 89 df mov %rbx,%rdi
> >> 0.00 : df227: 41 ff d4 callq *%r12
> >> 0.00 : df22a: 85 c0 test %eax,%eax
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> If I read the output correctly, most of the dcache misses are coming from
> >> 'mov %rbx, %rdi', and AFAIK this intruction can't generate any dcache
> >> miss. What am I missing ?
> >
> >
> > Perhaps you need pebs to get the very precise location on your event.
> >
> > perf stat -e cache-misses:up,l1d-loads-misses:up true
> >
> >
> > I think the more you add 'p', the more precise it is.
> > Like:
> >
> > perf stat -e cache-misses:uppp,l1d-loads-misses:uppp true
> >
> > Not sure how much it will accept though :)
>
> Well it doesn't want one actually:
>
> $ perf stat -v -e cache-misses:up true
> Error: counter 0, sys_perf_event_open() syscall returned with -1 (No
> space left on device)
> No permission to collect stats.
> Consider tweaking /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid.
>
> Where can I find a description of PEB ?
I have the same problem. But running perf record with this :p
works for me. Which is what we want: pebs is useful for sampling,
not counting-only.
Ah and that won't work if you don't run some intel CPU I think.
Check you have PEBS support in /proc/cpuinfo
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