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From: Shaohui Zheng <shaohui.zheng@intel.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, haicheng.li@linux.intel.com,
	lethal@linux-sh.org, ak@linux.intel.com,
	shaohui.zheng@linux.intel.com, Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
	Haicheng Li <haicheng.li@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [1/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: add function to hide memory region via e820 table.
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:12:18 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101119001218.GA3327@shaohui> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1011181313140.26680@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 01:16:07PM -0800, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, Shaohui Zheng wrote:
> 
> > > > Index: linux-hpe4/arch/x86/kernel/e820.c
> > > > ===================================================================
> > > > --- linux-hpe4.orig/arch/x86/kernel/e820.c	2010-11-15 17:13:02.483461667 +0800
> > > > +++ linux-hpe4/arch/x86/kernel/e820.c	2010-11-15 17:13:07.083461581 +0800
> > > > @@ -971,6 +971,7 @@
> > > >  }
> > > >  
> > > >  static int userdef __initdata;
> > > > +static u64 max_mem_size __initdata = ULLONG_MAX;
> > > >  
> > > >  /* "mem=nopentium" disables the 4MB page tables. */
> > > >  static int __init parse_memopt(char *p)
> > > > @@ -989,12 +990,28 @@
> > > >  
> > > >  	userdef = 1;
> > > >  	mem_size = memparse(p, &p);
> > > > -	e820_remove_range(mem_size, ULLONG_MAX - mem_size, E820_RAM, 1);
> > > > +	e820_remove_range(mem_size, max_mem_size - mem_size, E820_RAM, 1);
> > > > +	max_mem_size = mem_size;
> > > >  
> > > >  	return 0;
> > > >  }
> > > 
> > > This needs memmap= support as well, right?
> > we did not do the testing after combine both memmap and numa=hide paramter, 
> > I think that the result should similar with mem=XX, they both remove a memory
> > region from the e820 table.
> > 
> 
> You've modified the parser for mem= but not memmap= so the change needs 
> additional support for the latter.
> 

the parser for mem= is not modified, the changed parser is numa=, I add a addtional
option numa=hide=.

>From current discussion, numa=hide= interface should be removed, we will use mem=
to hide memory.

> > > >  early_param("mem", parse_memopt);
> > > >  
> > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_NODE_HOTPLUG_EMU
> > > > +u64 __init e820_hide_mem(u64 mem_size)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	u64 start, end_pfn;
> > > > +
> > > > +	userdef = 1;
> > > > +	end_pfn = e820_end_of_ram_pfn();
> > > > +	start = (end_pfn << PAGE_SHIFT) - mem_size;
> > > > +	e820_remove_range(start, max_mem_size - start, E820_RAM, 1);
> > > > +	max_mem_size = start;
> > > > +
> > > > +	return start;
> > > > +}
> > > > +#endif
> > > 
> > > This doesn't have any sanity checking for whether e820_remove_range() will 
> > > leave any significant amount of memory behind so the kernel will even boot 
> > > (probably should have a guaranteed FAKE_NODE_MIN_SIZE left behind?).
> > 
> > it should not be checked here, it should be checked by the function who call
> >  e820_hide_mem, and truncate the mem_size with FAKE_NODE_MIN_SIZE.
> > 
> 
> Your patchset doesn't do that, I'm talking specifically about the amount 
> of memory left behind so that the kernel at least still boots.  That seems 
> to be a function of e820_hide_mem() to do some sanity checking so we 
> actually still get a kernel rather than the responsibility of the 
> command-line parser.

How much memory is enough to make sure the kernel can still boot, it is very 
hard to measure. it is almost impossible to get the exact data. I try to leave very 
few memory to kernel(hide most memory with numa=hide), it cause a panic directly.

I have no idea about it, do you have any suggestions?

Another example,  
I try to add paramter "mem=1M", it compains "Select item can not fit into memory", 
and I did not find where the error message comes from, I guess that it should 
be printed by grub.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Shaohui Zheng <shaohui.zheng@intel.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, haicheng.li@linux.intel.com,
	lethal@linux-sh.org, ak@linux.intel.com,
	shaohui.zheng@linux.intel.com, Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
	Haicheng Li <haicheng.li@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [1/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: add function to hide memory region via e820 table.
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:12:18 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101119001218.GA3327@shaohui> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1011181313140.26680@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 01:16:07PM -0800, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, Shaohui Zheng wrote:
> 
> > > > Index: linux-hpe4/arch/x86/kernel/e820.c
> > > > ===================================================================
> > > > --- linux-hpe4.orig/arch/x86/kernel/e820.c	2010-11-15 17:13:02.483461667 +0800
> > > > +++ linux-hpe4/arch/x86/kernel/e820.c	2010-11-15 17:13:07.083461581 +0800
> > > > @@ -971,6 +971,7 @@
> > > >  }
> > > >  
> > > >  static int userdef __initdata;
> > > > +static u64 max_mem_size __initdata = ULLONG_MAX;
> > > >  
> > > >  /* "mem=nopentium" disables the 4MB page tables. */
> > > >  static int __init parse_memopt(char *p)
> > > > @@ -989,12 +990,28 @@
> > > >  
> > > >  	userdef = 1;
> > > >  	mem_size = memparse(p, &p);
> > > > -	e820_remove_range(mem_size, ULLONG_MAX - mem_size, E820_RAM, 1);
> > > > +	e820_remove_range(mem_size, max_mem_size - mem_size, E820_RAM, 1);
> > > > +	max_mem_size = mem_size;
> > > >  
> > > >  	return 0;
> > > >  }
> > > 
> > > This needs memmap= support as well, right?
> > we did not do the testing after combine both memmap and numa=hide paramter, 
> > I think that the result should similar with mem=XX, they both remove a memory
> > region from the e820 table.
> > 
> 
> You've modified the parser for mem= but not memmap= so the change needs 
> additional support for the latter.
> 

the parser for mem= is not modified, the changed parser is numa=, I add a addtional
option numa=hide=.

>From current discussion, numa=hide= interface should be removed, we will use mem=
to hide memory.

> > > >  early_param("mem", parse_memopt);
> > > >  
> > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_NODE_HOTPLUG_EMU
> > > > +u64 __init e820_hide_mem(u64 mem_size)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	u64 start, end_pfn;
> > > > +
> > > > +	userdef = 1;
> > > > +	end_pfn = e820_end_of_ram_pfn();
> > > > +	start = (end_pfn << PAGE_SHIFT) - mem_size;
> > > > +	e820_remove_range(start, max_mem_size - start, E820_RAM, 1);
> > > > +	max_mem_size = start;
> > > > +
> > > > +	return start;
> > > > +}
> > > > +#endif
> > > 
> > > This doesn't have any sanity checking for whether e820_remove_range() will 
> > > leave any significant amount of memory behind so the kernel will even boot 
> > > (probably should have a guaranteed FAKE_NODE_MIN_SIZE left behind?).
> > 
> > it should not be checked here, it should be checked by the function who call
> >  e820_hide_mem, and truncate the mem_size with FAKE_NODE_MIN_SIZE.
> > 
> 
> Your patchset doesn't do that, I'm talking specifically about the amount 
> of memory left behind so that the kernel at least still boots.  That seems 
> to be a function of e820_hide_mem() to do some sanity checking so we 
> actually still get a kernel rather than the responsibility of the 
> command-line parser.

How much memory is enough to make sure the kernel can still boot, it is very 
hard to measure. it is almost impossible to get the exact data. I try to leave very 
few memory to kernel(hide most memory with numa=hide), it cause a panic directly.

I have no idea about it, do you have any suggestions?

Another example,  
I try to add paramter "mem=1M", it compains "Select item can not fit into memory", 
and I did not find where the error message comes from, I guess that it should 
be printed by grub.

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-19  1:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-17  2:07 [0/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator - Introduction & Feedbacks shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  2:07 ` shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [1/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: add function to hide memory region via e820 table shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  2:08   ` shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  8:16   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17  8:16     ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18  9:20     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18  9:20       ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18 21:16       ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18 21:16         ` David Rientjes
2010-11-19  0:12         ` Shaohui Zheng [this message]
2010-11-19  0:12           ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-21  0:45           ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21  0:45             ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21 14:00             ` Américo Wang
2010-11-21 14:00               ` Américo Wang
2010-11-21 21:33               ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21 21:33                 ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [2/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: infrastructure of NUMA hotplug emulation shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  2:08   ` shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  8:16   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17  8:16     ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17  7:51     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-17  7:51       ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-17 21:10       ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17 21:10         ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18  4:14         ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18  4:14           ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18  6:27           ` Paul Mundt
2010-11-18  6:27             ` Paul Mundt
2010-11-18  5:27             ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18  5:27               ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18 21:24               ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18 21:24                 ` David Rientjes
2010-11-19  0:32                 ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-19  0:32                   ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-21  0:48                   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21  0:48                     ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21  2:28                     ` [patch 1/2] x86: add numa=possible command line option David Rientjes
2010-11-21  2:28                       ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21  2:28                       ` [patch 2/2] mm: add node hotplug emulation David Rientjes
2010-11-21  2:28                         ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21 17:34                         ` Greg KH
2010-11-21 17:34                           ` Greg KH
2010-11-21 21:48                           ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21 21:48                             ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21 23:08                             ` [patch 2/2 v2] " David Rientjes
2010-11-21 23:08                               ` David Rientjes
2010-11-22  0:56                               ` Greg KH
2010-11-22  0:56                                 ` Greg KH
2010-11-28  1:52                                 ` David Rientjes
2010-11-28  1:52                                   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-28  5:17                                   ` Greg KH
2010-11-28  5:17                                     ` Greg KH
2010-11-30  0:04                                     ` David Rientjes
2010-11-30  0:04                                       ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21 14:26                       ` [patch 1/2] x86: add numa=possible command line option Américo Wang
2010-11-21 14:26                         ` Américo Wang
2010-11-21 21:46                         ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21 21:46                           ` David Rientjes
2010-11-22 15:43                           ` Américo Wang
2010-11-22 15:43                             ` Américo Wang
2010-11-21 15:14                     ` [2/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: infrastructure of NUMA hotplug emulation Li, Haicheng
2010-11-21 15:14                       ` Li, Haicheng
2010-11-21 21:42                       ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21 21:42                         ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18 21:19           ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18 21:19             ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [3/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: Userland interface to hotplug-add fake offlined nodes shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  2:08   ` shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  8:16   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17  8:16     ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [4/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: Abstract cpu register functions shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  2:08   ` shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [5/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: support cpu probe/release in x86 shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  2:08   ` shaohui.zheng
2010-11-21 14:45   ` Américo Wang
2010-11-21 14:45     ` Américo Wang
2010-11-22  0:01     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-22  0:01       ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-22 15:51       ` Américo Wang
2010-11-22 15:51         ` Américo Wang
2010-11-22 23:29         ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-22 23:29           ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [6/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: Fake CPU socket with logical CPU on x86 shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  2:08   ` shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [7/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: extend memory probe interface to support NUMA shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  2:08   ` shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17 18:50   ` Dave Hansen
2010-11-17 18:50     ` Dave Hansen
2010-11-17 21:18     ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17 21:18       ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17 21:55       ` Dave Hansen
2010-11-17 21:55         ` Dave Hansen
2010-11-17 22:44         ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17 22:44           ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17 23:00           ` Dave Hansen
2010-11-17 23:00             ` Dave Hansen
2010-11-17 23:17             ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17 23:17               ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18 16:59           ` Aaron Durbin
2010-11-18 16:59             ` Aaron Durbin
2010-11-18  4:48       ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18  4:48         ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18  6:24         ` Paul Mundt
2010-11-18  6:24           ` Paul Mundt
2010-11-18 21:28           ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18 21:28             ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18 21:31         ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18 21:31           ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18  4:36     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18  4:36       ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-19  7:51     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-19 16:36       ` Dave Hansen
2010-11-19 16:36         ` Dave Hansen
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [8/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: documentation shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  2:08   ` shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17 23:06   ` Randy Dunlap
2010-11-17 23:06     ` Randy Dunlap
2010-11-18  2:31     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18  2:31       ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-21 15:03   ` Américo Wang
2010-11-21 15:03     ` Américo Wang
2010-11-21 15:16     ` Li, Haicheng
2010-11-21 15:16       ` Li, Haicheng
2010-11-21 23:33     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-21 23:33       ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-22 16:04       ` Américo Wang
2010-11-22 16:04         ` Américo Wang
2010-11-22 23:23         ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-22 23:23           ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-17  5:22 ` [0/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator - Introduction & Feedbacks Paul Mundt
2010-11-17  5:22   ` Paul Mundt
2010-11-19  5:54   ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-19  5:54     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-17  9:26 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-11-17  9:26   ` Yinghai Lu
2010-11-18  2:03   ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18  2:03     ` Shaohui Zheng

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