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From: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
To: Ohad Ben-Cohen <ohad@wizery.com>
Cc: linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Benoit Cousson <b-cousson@ti.com>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	Hari Kanigeri <h-kanigeri2@ti.com>, Suman Anna <s-anna@ti.com>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@deeprootsystems.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] drivers: hwspinlock: add generic framework
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:00:58 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101130190058.GX17222@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1290526740-27624-2-git-send-email-ohad@wizery.com>

* Ohad Ben-Cohen <ohad@wizery.com> [101123 07:27]:
> Add a common, platform-independent, hwspinlock framework.
> 
> Hardware spinlock devices are needed, e.g., in order to access data
> that is shared between remote processors, that otherwise have no
> alternative mechanism to accomplish synchronization and mutual exclusion
> operations.

<snip>

> +  int hwspin_lock(struct hwspinlock *hwlock);
> +   - lock a previously assigned hwspinlock. If the hwspinlock is already
> +     taken, the function will busy loop waiting for it to be released.
> +     Note: if a faulty remote core never releases this lock, this function
> +     will deadlock.
> +     This function will fail only if hwlock is invalid. Otherwise, it will
> +     always succeed (or deadlock; see above) and it will never sleep.
> +     Upon a successful return from this function, preemption is disabled so
> +     the caller must not sleep, and is advised to release the hwspinlock as
> +     soon as possible, in order to minimize remote cores polling on the
> +     hardware interconnect.
...

> +  int hwspin_lock_timeout(struct hwspinlock *hwlock, unsigned long timeout);
> +   - lock a previously-assigned hwspinlock with a timeout limit (specified in
> +     jiffies). If the hwspinlock is already taken, the function will busy loop
> +     waiting for it to be released, but give up when the timeout meets jiffies.
> +     If timeout is 0, the function will never give up (therefore if a faulty
> +     remote core never releases the hwspinlock, it will deadlock).
> +     Upon a successful return from this function, preemption is disabled so
> +     the caller must not sleep, and is advised to release the hwspinlock as
> +     soon as possible, in order to minimize remote cores polling on the
> +     hardware interconnect.
> +     Returns 0 when successful and an appropriate error code otherwise (most
> +     notably -ETIMEDOUT if the hwspinlock is still busy after timeout meets
> +     jiffies). The function will never sleep.

Do we even need the hwspin_lock variants, why can't we always use the
hwspin_lock_timeout variants?

To me the idea of looping waiting for some external system to release
a lock is not a good idea..

Regards,

Tony

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From: tony@atomide.com (Tony Lindgren)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 1/4] drivers: hwspinlock: add generic framework
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:00:58 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101130190058.GX17222@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1290526740-27624-2-git-send-email-ohad@wizery.com>

* Ohad Ben-Cohen <ohad@wizery.com> [101123 07:27]:
> Add a common, platform-independent, hwspinlock framework.
> 
> Hardware spinlock devices are needed, e.g., in order to access data
> that is shared between remote processors, that otherwise have no
> alternative mechanism to accomplish synchronization and mutual exclusion
> operations.

<snip>

> +  int hwspin_lock(struct hwspinlock *hwlock);
> +   - lock a previously assigned hwspinlock. If the hwspinlock is already
> +     taken, the function will busy loop waiting for it to be released.
> +     Note: if a faulty remote core never releases this lock, this function
> +     will deadlock.
> +     This function will fail only if hwlock is invalid. Otherwise, it will
> +     always succeed (or deadlock; see above) and it will never sleep.
> +     Upon a successful return from this function, preemption is disabled so
> +     the caller must not sleep, and is advised to release the hwspinlock as
> +     soon as possible, in order to minimize remote cores polling on the
> +     hardware interconnect.
...

> +  int hwspin_lock_timeout(struct hwspinlock *hwlock, unsigned long timeout);
> +   - lock a previously-assigned hwspinlock with a timeout limit (specified in
> +     jiffies). If the hwspinlock is already taken, the function will busy loop
> +     waiting for it to be released, but give up when the timeout meets jiffies.
> +     If timeout is 0, the function will never give up (therefore if a faulty
> +     remote core never releases the hwspinlock, it will deadlock).
> +     Upon a successful return from this function, preemption is disabled so
> +     the caller must not sleep, and is advised to release the hwspinlock as
> +     soon as possible, in order to minimize remote cores polling on the
> +     hardware interconnect.
> +     Returns 0 when successful and an appropriate error code otherwise (most
> +     notably -ETIMEDOUT if the hwspinlock is still busy after timeout meets
> +     jiffies). The function will never sleep.

Do we even need the hwspin_lock variants, why can't we always use the
hwspin_lock_timeout variants?

To me the idea of looping waiting for some external system to release
a lock is not a good idea..

Regards,

Tony

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-11-30 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-23 15:38 [PATCH v2 0/4] Introduce common hardware spinlock interface Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-23 15:38 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-23 15:38 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-23 15:38 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] drivers: hwspinlock: add generic framework Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-23 15:38   ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-23 15:38   ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-24  7:44   ` Kamoolkar, Mugdha
2010-11-24  7:44     ` Kamoolkar, Mugdha
2010-11-24  7:44     ` Kamoolkar, Mugdha
2010-11-24 19:59     ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-24 19:59       ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-24 19:59       ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-25  3:59       ` David Brownell
2010-11-25  3:59         ` David Brownell
2010-11-25  6:40         ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-25  6:40           ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-25  6:40           ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-25 20:22           ` David Brownell
2010-11-25 20:22             ` David Brownell
2010-11-26  7:34             ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-26  7:34               ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-27  1:24               ` David Brownell
2010-11-27  1:24                 ` David Brownell
2010-11-29  9:57                 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-29  9:57                   ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-25  6:05       ` Kamoolkar, Mugdha
2010-11-25  6:05         ` Kamoolkar, Mugdha
2010-11-25  6:05         ` Kamoolkar, Mugdha
2010-11-25 14:29         ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-25 14:29           ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-25 14:29           ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-26  4:59   ` Olof Johansson
2010-11-26  4:59     ` Olof Johansson
2010-11-26  7:18     ` Grant Likely
2010-11-26  7:18       ` Grant Likely
2010-11-26  7:18       ` Grant Likely
2010-11-26 21:00       ` Olof Johansson
2010-11-26 21:00         ` Olof Johansson
2010-11-26 21:00         ` Olof Johansson
2010-11-26  8:53     ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-26  8:53       ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-26  8:53       ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-26  9:18       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-26  9:18         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-26 10:16         ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-26 10:16           ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-26 10:45           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-26 10:45             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-26 22:18             ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-26 22:18               ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-26 22:18               ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-26 22:53               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-26 22:53                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-29  9:46                 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-29  9:46                   ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-26 22:51       ` Olof Johansson
2010-11-26 22:51         ` Olof Johansson
2010-11-29 21:31         ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-29 21:31           ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-30 19:00   ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2010-11-30 19:00     ` Tony Lindgren
2010-11-30 22:20     ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-30 22:20       ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-30 22:23       ` Tony Lindgren
2010-11-30 22:23         ` Tony Lindgren
2010-11-23 15:38 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] drivers: hwspinlock: add OMAP implementation Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-23 15:38   ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-23 15:38   ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-23 23:23   ` Ionut Nicu
2010-11-23 23:23     ` Ionut Nicu
2010-11-24 10:33     ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-24 10:33       ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-23 15:38 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] OMAP4: hwmod data: Add hwspinlock Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-23 15:38   ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-23 15:38   ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-23 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] omap: add hwspinlock device Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-23 15:39   ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-11-23 15:39   ` Ohad Ben-Cohen

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