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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Kyle McMartin <kyle@mcmartin.ca>,
	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: page allocator: Adjust the per-cpu counter threshold when memory is low
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:17:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101223151746.d67e94bf.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1012231456520.2116@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:07:02 -0800 (PST)
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Dec 2010, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > > We had to pull aa454840 "mm: page allocator: calculate a better estimate 
> > > of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake" from 2.6.36 
> > > internally because tests showed that it would cause the machine to stall 
> > > as the result of heavy kswapd activity.  I merged it back with this fix as 
> > > it is pending in the -mm tree and it solves the issue we were seeing, so I 
> > > definitely think this should be pushed to -stable (and I would seriously 
> > > consider it for 2.6.37 inclusion even at this late date).
> > 
> > How's about I send
> > mm-page-allocator-adjust-the-per-cpu-counter-threshold-when-memory-is-low.patch
> > in for 2.6.38 and tag it for backporting into 2.6.37.1 and 2.6.36.x? 
> > That way it'll get a bit of 2.6.38-rc testing before being merged into
> > 2.6.37.x.
> > 
> 
> I don't think anyone would be able to answer that judgment call other than 
> you or Linus, it's a trade-off on whether 2.6.37 should be released with 
> the knowledge that it regresses just like 2.6.36 does (rendering both 
> unusable on some of our machines out of the box) because we're late in the 
> cycle.
> 
> I personally think the testing is already sufficient since it's been 
> sitting in -mm for two months, it's been suggested as stable material by a 
> couple different parties, it was a prerequisite for the transparent 
> hugepage series, and we've tested and merged it as fixing the regression 
> in 2.6.36 (as Fedora has, as far as I know).  We've already merged the fix 
> internally, though, so it's not for selfish reasons :)

Wibble, wobble.  It's good that the patch has been used in RH kernels. 
otoh, the patch is really quite big and the problem was present in
2.6.36 without a lot of complaints and we're very late in -rc and not
many people will be testing over xmas/newyear, and it would be most sad
to put badness into mainline at this time.

So I'm still inclined to go with (discretion > valour).

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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Kyle McMartin <kyle@mcmartin.ca>,
	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: page allocator: Adjust the per-cpu counter threshold when memory is low
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:17:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101223151746.d67e94bf.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1012231456520.2116@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:07:02 -0800 (PST)
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Dec 2010, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > > We had to pull aa454840 "mm: page allocator: calculate a better estimate 
> > > of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake" from 2.6.36 
> > > internally because tests showed that it would cause the machine to stall 
> > > as the result of heavy kswapd activity.  I merged it back with this fix as 
> > > it is pending in the -mm tree and it solves the issue we were seeing, so I 
> > > definitely think this should be pushed to -stable (and I would seriously 
> > > consider it for 2.6.37 inclusion even at this late date).
> > 
> > How's about I send
> > mm-page-allocator-adjust-the-per-cpu-counter-threshold-when-memory-is-low.patch
> > in for 2.6.38 and tag it for backporting into 2.6.37.1 and 2.6.36.x? 
> > That way it'll get a bit of 2.6.38-rc testing before being merged into
> > 2.6.37.x.
> > 
> 
> I don't think anyone would be able to answer that judgment call other than 
> you or Linus, it's a trade-off on whether 2.6.37 should be released with 
> the knowledge that it regresses just like 2.6.36 does (rendering both 
> unusable on some of our machines out of the box) because we're late in the 
> cycle.
> 
> I personally think the testing is already sufficient since it's been 
> sitting in -mm for two months, it's been suggested as stable material by a 
> couple different parties, it was a prerequisite for the transparent 
> hugepage series, and we've tested and merged it as fixing the regression 
> in 2.6.36 (as Fedora has, as far as I know).  We've already merged the fix 
> internally, though, so it's not for selfish reasons :)

Wibble, wobble.  It's good that the patch has been used in RH kernels. 
otoh, the patch is really quite big and the problem was present in
2.6.36 without a lot of complaints and we're very late in -rc and not
many people will be testing over xmas/newyear, and it would be most sad
to put badness into mainline at this time.

So I'm still inclined to go with (discretion > valour).

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-23 23:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-27  8:47 [PATCH 0/2] Reduce the amount of time spent in watermark-related functions Mel Gorman
2010-10-27  8:47 ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-27  8:47 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: page allocator: Adjust the per-cpu counter threshold when memory is low Mel Gorman
2010-10-27  8:47   ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-27 20:16   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-27 20:16     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-28  1:09   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-28  1:09     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-28  9:49     ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-28  9:49       ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-28  9:58       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-28  9:58         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-14  8:53     ` [PATCH] set_pgdat_percpu_threshold() don't use for_each_online_cpu KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-14  8:53       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-15 10:26       ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-15 10:26         ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-15 14:04         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-11-15 14:04           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-11-16  9:58           ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-16  9:58             ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-17  0:07       ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-17  0:07         ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-19 15:29         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-11-19 15:29           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-11-23  8:32         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-23  8:32           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-01  7:06   ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: page allocator: Adjust the per-cpu counter threshold when memory is low KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-01  7:06     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-26 16:06   ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-26 16:06     ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-29  9:56     ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-29  9:56       ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-29 13:16       ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-29 13:16         ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-29 15:08         ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-29 15:08           ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-29 15:22           ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-29 15:22             ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-29 15:26             ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-29 15:26               ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-29 15:58             ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-29 15:58               ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-23 22:18               ` David Rientjes
2010-12-23 22:18                 ` David Rientjes
2010-12-23 22:35                 ` Andrew Morton
2010-12-23 22:35                   ` Andrew Morton
2010-12-23 23:00                   ` Kyle McMartin
2010-12-23 23:00                     ` Kyle McMartin
2010-12-23 23:07                   ` David Rientjes
2010-12-23 23:07                     ` David Rientjes
2010-12-23 23:17                     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2010-12-23 23:17                       ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-27  8:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: vmstat: Use a single setter function and callback for adjusting percpu thresholds Mel Gorman
2010-10-27  8:47   ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-27 20:13   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-27 20:13     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-28  1:10   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-28  1:10     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-01  7:06   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-01  7:06     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-10-28 15:13 [PATCH 0/2] Reduce the amount of time spent in watermark-related functions V4 Mel Gorman
2010-10-28 15:13 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: page allocator: Adjust the per-cpu counter threshold when memory is low Mel Gorman
2010-10-28 15:13   ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-28 22:04   ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-28 22:04     ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-29 10:12     ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-29 10:12       ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-29 19:40       ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-29 19:40         ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-02  0:53         ` Shaohua Li
2010-11-02  0:53           ` Shaohua Li
2010-11-09 11:33         ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-09 11:33           ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-09 16:48         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-11-09 16:48           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-29 14:58     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-29 14:58       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-29 18:25       ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-29 18:25         ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-29 19:33         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-29 19:33           ` Christoph Lameter

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