From: Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>
To: Jean Pihet <jean.pihet@newoldbits.com>
Cc: Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>,
mingo@elte.hu, Kevin Hilman <khilman@deeprootsystems.com>,
Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, rjw@sisk.pl,
Jean Pihet <j-pihet@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] perf: add OMAP support for the new power events
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:14:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201101101514.32355.trenn@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=3pek3+Vv+c1TCxBH2RJcoSXq8TL8CyK9ABMeu@mail.gmail.com>
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 12:05:18 Jean Pihet wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com> wrote:
> > Hello Jean,
> >
> > On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, jean.pihet@newoldbits.com wrote:
> >
> >> From: Jean Pihet <j-pihet@ti.com>
> >>
> >> The patch adds the new power management trace points for
> >> the OMAP architecture.
> >>
> >> The trace points are for:
> >> - default idle handler. Since the cpuidle framework is
> >> instrumented in the generic way there is no need to
> >> add trace points in the OMAP specific cpuidle handler;
> >> - cpufreq (DVFS),
> >> - clocks changes (enable, disable, set_rate),
> >
> > A question about these. Are these only meant to track calls to these
> > functions from outside the clock code? Or meant to track actual hardware
> > clock changes?
> The former: this is used to track the clock requests from outside the
> clock framework.
>
> > If the latter, then it might make sense to put these
> > trace points into the functions that actually change the hardware
> > registers, e.g., omap2_dflt_clk_{enable,disable}(), etc., since a
> > clk_enable() on a leaf clock may result in many internal system clocks
> > being enabled up the clock tree.
> I agree with you it is better to track the actual clock changes instead.
> I propose to move the tracepoints to omap2_clk_{enable...} which
> enables all the clocks irrespectively of the installed handler.
> Note about the clock handlers: omap2_dflt_clk_enable happens to be the
> handler for all controllable clocks but could that change in the
> future?
Looks like there is cpuidle34xx using cpuidle framework on specific boards
only.
And pm34xx.c and others override pm_idle and use the same low level
functions to reduce power consumption as cpuidle34xx.
Ideally pm34xx.c (and others) would not override pm_idle, but register as
a cpuidle driver. Then the idle events would be tracked by the
cpuidle subsystem automatically (with my latest patches).
But this would be a more intrusive change (are there efforts to do that?).
Even if it should happen at some point, adding some additional events for
people to better debug/monitor the stuff now does not hurt.
Thomas
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From: trenn@suse.de (Thomas Renninger)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 2/3] perf: add OMAP support for the new power events
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:14:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201101101514.32355.trenn@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=3pek3+Vv+c1TCxBH2RJcoSXq8TL8CyK9ABMeu@mail.gmail.com>
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 12:05:18 Jean Pihet wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com> wrote:
> > Hello Jean,
> >
> > On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, jean.pihet at newoldbits.com wrote:
> >
> >> From: Jean Pihet <j-pihet@ti.com>
> >>
> >> The patch adds the new power management trace points for
> >> the OMAP architecture.
> >>
> >> The trace points are for:
> >> - default idle handler. Since the cpuidle framework is
> >> instrumented in the generic way there is no need to
> >> add trace points in the OMAP specific cpuidle handler;
> >> - cpufreq (DVFS),
> >> - clocks changes (enable, disable, set_rate),
> >
> > A question about these. Are these only meant to track calls to these
> > functions from outside the clock code? Or meant to track actual hardware
> > clock changes?
> The former: this is used to track the clock requests from outside the
> clock framework.
>
> > If the latter, then it might make sense to put these
> > trace points into the functions that actually change the hardware
> > registers, e.g., omap2_dflt_clk_{enable,disable}(), etc., since a
> > clk_enable() on a leaf clock may result in many internal system clocks
> > being enabled up the clock tree.
> I agree with you it is better to track the actual clock changes instead.
> I propose to move the tracepoints to omap2_clk_{enable...} which
> enables all the clocks irrespectively of the installed handler.
> Note about the clock handlers: omap2_dflt_clk_enable happens to be the
> handler for all controllable clocks but could that change in the
> future?
Looks like there is cpuidle34xx using cpuidle framework on specific boards
only.
And pm34xx.c and others override pm_idle and use the same low level
functions to reduce power consumption as cpuidle34xx.
Ideally pm34xx.c (and others) would not override pm_idle, but register as
a cpuidle driver. Then the idle events would be tracked by the
cpuidle subsystem automatically (with my latest patches).
But this would be a more intrusive change (are there efforts to do that?).
Even if it should happen at some point, adding some additional events for
people to better debug/monitor the stuff now does not hurt.
Thomas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-10 14:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-04 10:17 [PATCH 0/3] perf, tools: new power trace API jean.pihet
2011-01-04 10:17 ` [PATCH 1/3] perf: add calls to suspend trace point jean.pihet
2011-01-04 10:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-04 10:17 ` [PATCH 2/3] perf: add OMAP support for the new power events jean.pihet
2011-01-04 10:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-04 10:58 ` Pihet-XID, Jean
2011-01-04 18:03 ` Nishanth Menon
2011-01-05 10:56 ` Jean Pihet
2011-01-04 10:17 ` [PATCH 3/3] tools, perf: Documentation for the power events API jean.pihet
2011-01-04 10:48 ` [PATCH 1/3] perf: add calls to suspend trace point jean.pihet
2011-01-04 10:48 ` jean.pihet
2011-01-04 11:29 ` Pavel Machek
2011-01-04 11:29 ` Pavel Machek
2011-01-04 15:00 ` Jean Pihet
2011-01-04 15:00 ` Jean Pihet
2011-01-04 15:00 ` Jean Pihet
2011-01-04 23:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-01-04 23:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-01-05 10:09 ` Jean Pihet
2011-01-05 10:09 ` Jean Pihet
2011-01-05 10:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-01-05 10:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-01-05 11:23 ` Pavel Machek
2011-01-05 11:23 ` Pavel Machek
2011-01-04 10:54 ` [PATCH 2/3] perf: add OMAP support for the new power events jean.pihet
2011-01-04 10:54 ` jean.pihet
2011-01-04 10:54 ` jean.pihet at newoldbits.com
2011-01-04 18:48 ` Paul Walmsley
2011-01-04 18:48 ` Paul Walmsley
2011-01-05 11:05 ` Jean Pihet
2011-01-05 11:05 ` Jean Pihet
2011-01-10 14:14 ` Thomas Renninger [this message]
2011-01-10 14:14 ` Thomas Renninger
2011-01-11 1:24 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-01-11 1:24 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-01-10 19:06 ` Paul Walmsley
2011-01-10 19:06 ` Paul Walmsley
2011-01-04 10:54 ` jean.pihet
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-12-10 19:51 [PATCH 0/3] perf, tools: new power trace API jean.pihet
2010-12-10 19:52 ` [PATCH 2/3] perf: add OMAP support for the new power events jean.pihet
2010-12-10 19:52 ` jean.pihet
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