All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Michael J Wolf <mjwolf@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/6] count transparent hugepage splits
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:18:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110204211825.GJ30909@random.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1102031235100.453@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 01:22:14PM -0800, David Rientjes wrote:
> i.e. no global locking, but we've accepted the occassional off-by-one 
> error (even though splitting of hugepages isn't by any means lightning 
> fast and the overhead of atomic ops would be negligible).

Agreed losing an increment is not a problem, but in very large systems
it will become a bottleneck. It's not super urgent, but I think it
needs to become a per-cpu counter sooner than later (not needed
immediately but I would appreciate an incremental patch soon to
address that). split_huge_page is already fully SMP scalable if the
rmap isn't shared (i.e. fully SMP scalable across different execve)
and I'd like it to stay that way because split_huge_page can run at
high frequency at times from different processes, so in very large
systems it may be measurable, with that cacheline bouncing around 1024
cpus. pages_collapsed is not a problem because it's only used by one
kernel thread so it can't be contended. Again not super urgent but
better to optimize it ;).

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Michael J Wolf <mjwolf@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/6] count transparent hugepage splits
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:18:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110204211825.GJ30909@random.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1102031235100.453@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 01:22:14PM -0800, David Rientjes wrote:
> i.e. no global locking, but we've accepted the occassional off-by-one 
> error (even though splitting of hugepages isn't by any means lightning 
> fast and the overhead of atomic ops would be negligible).

Agreed losing an increment is not a problem, but in very large systems
it will become a bottleneck. It's not super urgent, but I think it
needs to become a per-cpu counter sooner than later (not needed
immediately but I would appreciate an incremental patch soon to
address that). split_huge_page is already fully SMP scalable if the
rmap isn't shared (i.e. fully SMP scalable across different execve)
and I'd like it to stay that way because split_huge_page can run at
high frequency at times from different processes, so in very large
systems it may be measurable, with that cacheline bouncing around 1024
cpus. pages_collapsed is not a problem because it's only used by one
kernel thread so it can't be contended. Again not super urgent but
better to optimize it ;).

--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org.  For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Fight unfair telecom internet charges in Canada: sign http://stopthemeter.ca/
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-04 21:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-01  0:33 [RFC][PATCH 0/6] more detailed per-process transparent hugepage statistics Dave Hansen
2011-02-01  0:33 ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-01  0:33 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/6] count transparent hugepage splits Dave Hansen
2011-02-01  0:33   ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-01  9:58   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-02-01  9:58     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-02-03 21:22   ` David Rientjes
2011-02-03 21:22     ` David Rientjes
2011-02-04 21:18     ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2011-02-04 21:18       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-04 21:28       ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-04 21:28         ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-01  0:33 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/6] pagewalk: only split huge pages when necessary Dave Hansen
2011-02-01  0:33   ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-01 10:04   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-02-01 10:04     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-02-01 15:03     ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-01 15:03       ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-03 21:22   ` David Rientjes
2011-02-03 21:22     ` David Rientjes
2011-02-03 21:33     ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-03 21:33       ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-03 21:46       ` David Rientjes
2011-02-03 21:46         ` David Rientjes
2011-02-04 17:19         ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-04 17:19           ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-04 21:10           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-04 21:10             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-01  0:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/6] break out smaps_pte_entry() from smaps_pte_range() Dave Hansen
2011-02-01  0:34   ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-01 10:08   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-02-01 10:08     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-02-03 21:22   ` David Rientjes
2011-02-03 21:22     ` David Rientjes
2011-02-03 21:40     ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-03 21:40       ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-01  0:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/6] pass pte size argument in to smaps_pte_entry() Dave Hansen
2011-02-01  0:34   ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-01 10:09   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-02-01 10:09     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-02-03 21:22   ` David Rientjes
2011-02-03 21:22     ` David Rientjes
2011-02-01  0:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/6] teach smaps_pte_range() about THP pmds Dave Hansen
2011-02-01  0:34   ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-01 10:11   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-02-01 10:11     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-02-01 15:02     ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-01 15:02       ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-01 16:09       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-01 16:09         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-03 21:22   ` David Rientjes
2011-02-03 21:22     ` David Rientjes
2011-02-03 21:34     ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-03 21:34       ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-01  0:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/6] have smaps show transparent huge pages Dave Hansen
2011-02-01  0:34   ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-01 10:12   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-02-01 10:12     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-02-03 21:22   ` David Rientjes
2011-02-03 21:22     ` David Rientjes
2011-02-01 15:38 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/6] more detailed per-process transparent hugepage statistics Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-01 15:38   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-01 17:15   ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-01 17:15     ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-01 20:39     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-01 20:39       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-01 20:56       ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-01 20:56         ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-02  0:07         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-02  0:07           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-08 17:54           ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-08 17:54             ` Dave Hansen
2011-02-08 18:17             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-08 18:17               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-03 21:54 ` David Rientjes
2011-02-03 21:54   ` David Rientjes

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20110204211825.GJ30909@random.random \
    --to=aarcange@redhat.com \
    --cc=dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=mjwolf@us.ibm.com \
    --cc=rientjes@google.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.