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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Andrei Warkentin <andreiw@motorola.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: MMC quirks relating to performance/lifetime.
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 12:20:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201102191220.54815.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimWAnPg2sYiLbfZXAAUiu7P5T3LmNoVbPi9RTEG@mail.gmail.com>

On Saturday 19 February 2011 00:17:51 Andrei Warkentin wrote:
> # echo 0 > /sys/block/mmcblk0/device/page_size
> # ./flashbench -A -b 1024 /dev/block/mmcblk0p9
> write align 8388608     pre 3.59ms      on 6.54ms       post 3.65ms     diff 2.92ms
> write align 4194304     pre 4.13ms      on 7.37ms       post 4.27ms     diff 3.17ms
> write align 2097152     pre 3.62ms      on 6.81ms       post 3.94ms     diff 3.03ms
> write align 1048576     pre 3.62ms      on 6.53ms       post 3.55ms     diff 2.95ms
> write align 524288      pre 3.62ms      on 6.51ms       post 3.63ms     diff 2.88ms
> write align 262144      pre 3.62ms      on 6.51ms       post 3.63ms     diff 2.89ms
> write align 131072      pre 3.62ms      on 6.5ms        post 3.63ms     diff 2.88ms
> write align 65536       pre 3.61ms      on 6.49ms       post 3.62ms     diff 2.88ms
> write align 32768       pre 3.61ms      on 6.49ms       post 3.61ms     diff 2.88ms
> write align 16384       pre 3.68ms      on 107ms        post 3.51ms     diff 103ms
> write align 8192        pre 3.74ms      on 121ms        post 3.91ms     diff 117ms
> write align 4096        pre 3.88ms      on 3.87ms       post 3.87ms     diff -2937ns
> write align 2048        pre 3.89ms      on 3.88ms       post 3.88ms     diff -8734ns
> # fjnh84@fjnh84-desktop:~/src/n/src/flash$ adb -s 17006185428011d7 shell
> # echo 8192 > /sys/block/mmcblk0/device/page_size
> # cd data
> # ./flashbench -A -b 1024 /dev/block/mmcblk0p9
> write align 8388608     pre 3.33ms      on 6.8ms        post 3.65ms     diff 3.31ms
> write align 4194304     pre 4.34ms      on 8.14ms       post 4.53ms     diff 3.71ms
> write align 2097152     pre 3.64ms      on 7.31ms       post 4.09ms     diff 3.44ms
> write align 1048576     pre 3.65ms      on 7.52ms       post 3.65ms     diff 3.87ms
> write align 524288      pre 3.62ms      on 6.8ms        post 3.63ms     diff 3.17ms
> write align 262144      pre 3.62ms      on 6.84ms       post 3.63ms     diff 3.22ms
> write align 131072      pre 3.62ms      on 6.85ms       post 3.44ms     diff 3.32ms
> write align 65536       pre 3.39ms      on 6.8ms        post 3.66ms     diff 3.28ms
> write align 32768       pre 3.64ms      on 6.86ms       post 3.66ms     diff 3.21ms
> write align 16384       pre 3.67ms      on 6.86ms       post 3.65ms     diff 3.2ms
> write align 8192        pre 3.66ms      on 6.84ms       post 3.64ms     diff 3.19ms
> write align 4096        pre 3.71ms      on 3.71ms       post 3.64ms     diff 38.6µs
> write align 2048        pre 3.71ms      on 3.71ms       post 3.72ms     diff -656ns
> 
> This was with the split unaligned accesses patch... Which I am
> attaching for comments.

I agree, this is very fascinating behavior. 100ms second latency for a
single 2KB access is definitely something we should try to avoid, and I
wonder why the drive decides to do that. It must get into a state where
it requires an extra garbage collection (you mentioned that earlier).

The numbers you see here are taken over multiple runs. Do you see a lot
of fluctuation when doing this with --count=1?

Also, does the same happen with other blocksizes, e.g. 4096 or 8192, passed
to flashbench?

	Arnd

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: MMC quirks relating to performance/lifetime.
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 12:20:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201102191220.54815.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimWAnPg2sYiLbfZXAAUiu7P5T3LmNoVbPi9RTEG@mail.gmail.com>

On Saturday 19 February 2011 00:17:51 Andrei Warkentin wrote:
> # echo 0 > /sys/block/mmcblk0/device/page_size
> # ./flashbench -A -b 1024 /dev/block/mmcblk0p9
> write align 8388608     pre 3.59ms      on 6.54ms       post 3.65ms     diff 2.92ms
> write align 4194304     pre 4.13ms      on 7.37ms       post 4.27ms     diff 3.17ms
> write align 2097152     pre 3.62ms      on 6.81ms       post 3.94ms     diff 3.03ms
> write align 1048576     pre 3.62ms      on 6.53ms       post 3.55ms     diff 2.95ms
> write align 524288      pre 3.62ms      on 6.51ms       post 3.63ms     diff 2.88ms
> write align 262144      pre 3.62ms      on 6.51ms       post 3.63ms     diff 2.89ms
> write align 131072      pre 3.62ms      on 6.5ms        post 3.63ms     diff 2.88ms
> write align 65536       pre 3.61ms      on 6.49ms       post 3.62ms     diff 2.88ms
> write align 32768       pre 3.61ms      on 6.49ms       post 3.61ms     diff 2.88ms
> write align 16384       pre 3.68ms      on 107ms        post 3.51ms     diff 103ms
> write align 8192        pre 3.74ms      on 121ms        post 3.91ms     diff 117ms
> write align 4096        pre 3.88ms      on 3.87ms       post 3.87ms     diff -2937ns
> write align 2048        pre 3.89ms      on 3.88ms       post 3.88ms     diff -8734ns
> # fjnh84 at fjnh84-desktop:~/src/n/src/flash$ adb -s 17006185428011d7 shell
> # echo 8192 > /sys/block/mmcblk0/device/page_size
> # cd data
> # ./flashbench -A -b 1024 /dev/block/mmcblk0p9
> write align 8388608     pre 3.33ms      on 6.8ms        post 3.65ms     diff 3.31ms
> write align 4194304     pre 4.34ms      on 8.14ms       post 4.53ms     diff 3.71ms
> write align 2097152     pre 3.64ms      on 7.31ms       post 4.09ms     diff 3.44ms
> write align 1048576     pre 3.65ms      on 7.52ms       post 3.65ms     diff 3.87ms
> write align 524288      pre 3.62ms      on 6.8ms        post 3.63ms     diff 3.17ms
> write align 262144      pre 3.62ms      on 6.84ms       post 3.63ms     diff 3.22ms
> write align 131072      pre 3.62ms      on 6.85ms       post 3.44ms     diff 3.32ms
> write align 65536       pre 3.39ms      on 6.8ms        post 3.66ms     diff 3.28ms
> write align 32768       pre 3.64ms      on 6.86ms       post 3.66ms     diff 3.21ms
> write align 16384       pre 3.67ms      on 6.86ms       post 3.65ms     diff 3.2ms
> write align 8192        pre 3.66ms      on 6.84ms       post 3.64ms     diff 3.19ms
> write align 4096        pre 3.71ms      on 3.71ms       post 3.64ms     diff 38.6?s
> write align 2048        pre 3.71ms      on 3.71ms       post 3.72ms     diff -656ns
> 
> This was with the split unaligned accesses patch... Which I am
> attaching for comments.

I agree, this is very fascinating behavior. 100ms second latency for a
single 2KB access is definitely something we should try to avoid, and I
wonder why the drive decides to do that. It must get into a state where
it requires an extra garbage collection (you mentioned that earlier).

The numbers you see here are taken over multiple runs. Do you see a lot
of fluctuation when doing this with --count=1?

Also, does the same happen with other blocksizes, e.g. 4096 or 8192, passed
to flashbench?

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-19 11:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-08 21:22 MMC quirks relating to performance/lifetime Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-08 21:38 ` Wolfram Sang
2011-02-08 21:38   ` Wolfram Sang
2011-02-08 22:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-09  8:37 ` Linus Walleij
2011-02-09  8:37   ` Linus Walleij
2011-02-09  9:13   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-09  9:13     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-11 22:33     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-11 22:33       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-12 17:05       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-12 17:05         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-12 17:33         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-12 17:33           ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-12 18:22           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-12 18:22             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-18  1:10       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-18  1:10         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-18 13:44         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-18 13:44           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-18 19:47           ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-18 19:47             ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-18 22:40             ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-18 22:40               ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-18 23:17               ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-18 23:17                 ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-19 11:20                 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2011-02-19 11:20                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-20  5:56                   ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-20  5:56                     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-20 15:23                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-20 15:23                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-22  7:05                       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-22  7:05                         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-22 16:49                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-22 16:49                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-19  9:54               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-19  9:54                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-20  4:39                 ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-20  4:39                   ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-20 15:03                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-20 15:03                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-22  6:42                     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-22  6:42                       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-22 16:42                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-22 16:42                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-11 23:23     ` Linus Walleij
2011-02-11 23:23       ` Linus Walleij
2011-02-12 10:45       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-12 10:45         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-12 10:59         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-12 10:59           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-12 16:28           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-12 16:28             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-12 16:37             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-12 16:37               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-11 22:27   ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-11 22:27     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-12 18:37     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-12 18:37       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-13  0:10       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-13  0:10         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-13 17:39         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-13 17:39           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-14 19:29           ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-14 19:29             ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-14 20:22             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-14 20:22               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-14 22:25               ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-14 22:25                 ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-15 17:16                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-15 17:16                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-17  2:08                   ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-17  2:08                     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-17 15:47                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-17 15:47                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-20 11:27                       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-20 11:27                         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-20 14:39                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-20 14:39                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-22  7:46                           ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-22  7:46                             ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-22 17:00                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-22 17:00                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-23 10:19                               ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-23 10:19                                 ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-23 16:09                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-23 16:09                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-23 22:26                                   ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-23 22:26                                     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-24  9:24                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-24  9:24                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-25 11:02                                       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-25 11:02                                         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-25 12:21                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-25 12:21                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-01 18:48                                           ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-01 18:48                                             ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-01 19:11                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-01 19:11                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-01 19:15                                               ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-01 19:15                                                 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-01 19:51                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-01 19:51                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-01 21:33                                                   ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-03-01 21:33                                                     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-03-02 10:34                                               ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-03-02 10:34                                                 ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-03-05  9:23                                                 ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-03-05  9:23                                                   ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-02-11 14:41 ` Pavel Machek
2011-02-11 14:51   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-11 15:20     ` Lei Wen
2011-02-11 15:25       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-08  6:59     ` Pavel Machek
2011-03-08 14:03       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-08 14:03         ` Arnd Bergmann

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