From: Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
Gui Jianfeng <guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Ryo Tsuruta <ryov@valinux.co.jp>,
Hirokazu Takahashi <taka@valinux.co.jp>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] page_cgroup: make page tracking available for blkio
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:48:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110222234833.GG23723@linux.develer.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110222162729.054fe596@bike.lwn.net>
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 04:27:29PM -0700, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:01:47 +0100
> Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com> wrote:
>
> > > My immediate observation is that you're not really tracking the "owner"
> > > here - you're tracking an opaque 16-bit token known only to the block
> > > controller in a field which - if changed by anybody other than the block
> > > controller - will lead to mayhem in the block controller. I think it
> > > might be clearer - and safer - to say "blkcg" or some such instead of
> > > "owner" here.
> >
> > Basically the idea here was to be as generic as possible and make this
> > feature potentially available also to other subsystems, so that cgroup
> > subsystems may represent whatever they want with the 16-bit token.
> > However, no more than a single subsystem may be able to use this feature
> > at the same time.
>
> That makes me nervous; it can't really be used that way unless we want to
> say that certain controllers are fundamentally incompatible and can't be
> allowed to play together. For whatever my $0.02 are worth (given the
> state of the US dollar, that's not a whole lot), I'd suggest keeping the
> current mechanism, but make it clear that it belongs to your controller.
> If and when another controller comes along with a need for similar
> functionality, somebody can worry about making it more general.
OK, I understand. I'll use "blkio" instead of "owner". Also because I
wouldn't like to introduce additional logic and overhead to check if two
controllers are using this feature at the same time. Better to hard-code
this information in the name of the functions.
Probably the most generic solution is the one that you suggested:
replace the mem_cgroup with a pointer to css_set. I'll also try to
investigate this way.
Thanks,
-Andrea
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From: Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
Gui Jianfeng <guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Ryo Tsuruta <ryov@valinux.co.jp>,
Hirokazu Takahashi <taka@valinux.co.jp>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] page_cgroup: make page tracking available for blkio
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:48:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110222234833.GG23723@linux.develer.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110222162729.054fe596@bike.lwn.net>
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 04:27:29PM -0700, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:01:47 +0100
> Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com> wrote:
>
> > > My immediate observation is that you're not really tracking the "owner"
> > > here - you're tracking an opaque 16-bit token known only to the block
> > > controller in a field which - if changed by anybody other than the block
> > > controller - will lead to mayhem in the block controller. I think it
> > > might be clearer - and safer - to say "blkcg" or some such instead of
> > > "owner" here.
> >
> > Basically the idea here was to be as generic as possible and make this
> > feature potentially available also to other subsystems, so that cgroup
> > subsystems may represent whatever they want with the 16-bit token.
> > However, no more than a single subsystem may be able to use this feature
> > at the same time.
>
> That makes me nervous; it can't really be used that way unless we want to
> say that certain controllers are fundamentally incompatible and can't be
> allowed to play together. For whatever my $0.02 are worth (given the
> state of the US dollar, that's not a whole lot), I'd suggest keeping the
> current mechanism, but make it clear that it belongs to your controller.
> If and when another controller comes along with a need for similar
> functionality, somebody can worry about making it more general.
OK, I understand. I'll use "blkio" instead of "owner". Also because I
wouldn't like to introduce additional logic and overhead to check if two
controllers are using this feature at the same time. Better to hard-code
this information in the name of the functions.
Probably the most generic solution is the one that you suggested:
replace the mem_cgroup with a pointer to css_set. I'll also try to
investigate this way.
Thanks,
-Andrea
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2011-02-22 17:12 [PATCH 0/5] blk-throttle: writeback and swap IO control Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 17:12 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 17:12 ` [PATCH 1/5] blk-cgroup: move blk-cgroup.h in include/linux/blk-cgroup.h Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 17:12 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 17:12 ` [PATCH 2/5] blk-cgroup: introduce task_to_blkio_cgroup() Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 17:12 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 17:12 ` [PATCH 3/5] page_cgroup: make page tracking available for blkio Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 17:12 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 20:01 ` Jonathan Corbet
2011-02-22 20:01 ` Jonathan Corbet
2011-02-22 21:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-22 21:57 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20110222130145.37cb151e-vw3g6Xz/EtPk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-22 21:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-22 23:01 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 23:01 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 23:01 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 23:06 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-22 23:06 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-22 23:21 ` Jonathan Corbet
2011-02-22 23:21 ` Jonathan Corbet
2011-02-22 23:37 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 23:37 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-23 4:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-23 4:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-23 8:59 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-23 8:59 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-23 23:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-23 23:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-25 0:48 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-25 0:48 ` Andrea Righi
[not found] ` <20110224085805.14766e93.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-25 0:48 ` Andrea Righi
[not found] ` <20110223085911.GC2174-fxUVXftIFDlZdMzt4l2sLQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-23 23:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <20110223134910.abbdc931.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-23 8:59 ` Andrea Righi
[not found] ` <20110222233718.GF23723-fxUVXftIFDlZdMzt4l2sLQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-23 4:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <20110222230630.GL28269-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-22 23:21 ` Jonathan Corbet
2011-02-22 23:37 ` Andrea Righi
[not found] ` <20110222230146.GB23723-fxUVXftIFDlZdMzt4l2sLQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-22 23:06 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-22 23:27 ` Jonathan Corbet
2011-02-22 23:27 ` Jonathan Corbet
2011-02-22 23:27 ` Jonathan Corbet
[not found] ` <20110222162729.054fe596-vw3g6Xz/EtPk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-22 23:48 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 23:48 ` Andrea Righi [this message]
2011-02-22 23:48 ` Andrea Righi
[not found] ` <1298394776-9957-4-git-send-email-arighi-vWjgImWzx8FBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-22 20:01 ` Jonathan Corbet
2011-02-22 21:22 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-22 21:22 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-22 21:22 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20110222212253.GJ28269-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-22 23:08 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 23:08 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 23:08 ` Andrea Righi
[not found] ` <1298394776-9957-1-git-send-email-arighi-vWjgImWzx8FBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-22 17:12 ` [PATCH 1/5] blk-cgroup: move blk-cgroup.h in include/linux/blk-cgroup.h Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 17:12 ` [PATCH 2/5] blk-cgroup: introduce task_to_blkio_cgroup() Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 17:12 ` [PATCH 3/5] page_cgroup: make page tracking available for blkio Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 17:12 ` [PATCH 4/5] blk-throttle: track buffered and anonymous pages Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 17:12 ` [PATCH 5/5] blk-throttle: buffered and anonymous page tracking instrumentation Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 19:34 ` [PATCH 0/5] blk-throttle: writeback and swap IO control Vivek Goyal
2011-02-24 6:08 ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-22 17:12 ` [PATCH 4/5] blk-throttle: track buffered and anonymous pages Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 17:12 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 18:42 ` Chad Talbott
2011-02-22 18:42 ` Chad Talbott
2011-02-22 19:12 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 19:12 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 20:49 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-22 20:49 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20110222204928.GH28269-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-22 23:03 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 23:03 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 23:03 ` Andrea Righi
[not found] ` <AANLkTinD2ZH3hw_iqVpvMjMRbUkXMBgttjd2NevvYq9x-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-22 19:12 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 20:49 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-22 21:00 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-22 21:00 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20110222210030.GI28269-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-22 23:05 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 23:05 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 23:05 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-23 0:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-23 0:07 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20110223000718.GN28269-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-23 8:37 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-23 8:37 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-23 8:37 ` Andrea Righi
[not found] ` <20110222230534.GD23723-fxUVXftIFDlZdMzt4l2sLQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-23 0:07 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <1298394776-9957-5-git-send-email-arighi-vWjgImWzx8FBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-22 18:42 ` Chad Talbott
2011-02-22 21:00 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-22 17:12 ` [PATCH 5/5] blk-throttle: buffered and anonymous page tracking instrumentation Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 17:12 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 19:34 ` [PATCH 0/5] blk-throttle: writeback and swap IO control Vivek Goyal
2011-02-22 19:34 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20110222193403.GG28269-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-22 22:41 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 22:41 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-22 22:41 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-23 0:03 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-23 0:03 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-23 8:32 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-23 8:32 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-23 15:23 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-23 15:23 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-23 23:14 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-23 23:14 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-24 0:10 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-24 0:10 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20110224001033.GF2526-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-24 0:40 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-25 0:54 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-24 0:40 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-24 0:40 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <20110224094039.89c07bea.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-24 2:01 ` Greg Thelen
2011-02-24 16:18 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20110224161844.GD18494__23141.7772280567$1298564487$gmane$org-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-23 18:48 ` Daniel Poelzleithner
2011-02-24 2:01 ` Greg Thelen
2011-02-24 2:01 ` Greg Thelen
2011-02-24 16:18 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-24 16:18 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-25 0:54 ` Andrea Righi
2011-02-25 0:54 ` Andrea Righi
[not found] ` <20110223231410.GB1744-fxUVXftIFDlZdMzt4l2sLQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-24 0:10 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20110223152354.GA2526-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-23 23:14 ` Andrea Righi
[not found] ` <20110223083206.GA2174-fxUVXftIFDlZdMzt4l2sLQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-23 15:23 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20110223000358.GM28269-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-23 8:32 ` Andrea Righi
[not found] ` <20110222224141.GA23723-fxUVXftIFDlZdMzt4l2sLQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-23 0:03 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-24 6:08 ` Balbir Singh
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