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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [patch 2/3] Add support for live block copy
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:49:18 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110223174917.GA4630@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D65051A.6070707@redhat.com>

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 03:01:14PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 02/23/2011 01:14 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >
> >-drive already ties into the qemuopts infrastructure and we have
> >readconfig and writeconfig.  I don't think we're missing any major
> >pieces to do this in a more proper fashion.
> 
> The problem with qemu config files is that it splits the
> authoritative source of where images are stored into two.  Is it in
> the management tool's database or is it in qemu's config file?
> 
> For the problem at hand, one solution is to make qemu stop after the
> copy, and then management can issue an additional command to
> rearrange the disk and resume the guest.  A drawback here is that if
> management dies, the guest is stopped until it restarts.  We also
> make management latency guest visible, even if it doesn't die at an
> inconvenient place.
> 
> An alternative approach is to have the copy be performed by a new
> layered block format driver:
> 
> - create a new image, type = live-copy, containing three pieces of
> information
>    - source image
>    - destination image
>    - copy state (initially nothing is copied)
> - tell qemu switch to the new image
> - qemu starts copying, updates copy state as needed
> - copy finishes, event is emitted; reads and writes still serviced
> - management receives event, switches qemu to destination image
> - management removes live-copy image
> 
> If management dies while this is happening, it can simply query the
> state of the copy.  
> Similarly, if qemu dies, the copy state is persistent (could be 0/1 or
> real range of blocks).

You don't know if a given block is uptodate or not without the dirty
bitmap. So unless you also keep track of dirty log somehow, this is
meaningless.

So a commit file as proposed indicates copy state (in 0/1 fashion). The
difference in your proposal is that such information is stored inside a
special purpose image format?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-23 18:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-22 17:00 [Qemu-devel] [patch 0/3] live block copy (v2) Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 17:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch 1/3] add migration_active function Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 17:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch 2/3] Add support for live block copy Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 20:50   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-02-22 21:07     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 21:11       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-22 23:09         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 23:14           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 13:01             ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 14:35               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 15:31                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 16:01                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 16:14                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 16:28                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 17:18                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 20:18                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 20:44                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-23 21:41                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-24 14:39                                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-24  7:37                             ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-24  8:54                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 15:00                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-24 15:22                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 17:58                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-27  9:10                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-27  9:55                                       ` Dor Laor
2011-02-27 13:49                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-27 16:02                                           ` Dor Laor
2011-02-27 17:25                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28  8:58                                               ` Dor Laor
2011-02-27 14:00                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-27 15:31                                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-27 17:41                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28  8:38                                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-28 12:45                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 13:21                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-28 17:33                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 17:47                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-28 18:12                                                       ` Anthony Liguori
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2011-03-01  8:59                                                         ` Dor Laor
2011-03-02 12:39                                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-02 13:00                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-02 15:07                                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-01  9:39                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-01 15:51                                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-01 22:27                                                             ` Dor Laor
2011-03-02 16:30                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-02 21:55                                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 18:56                                                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-03-01  9:45                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 16:17                     ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-23 16:30                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-24  5:41                         ` [Qemu-devel] Unsubsribing James Brown
2011-02-24 10:00                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-23 17:26                   ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [patch 2/3] Add support for live block copy Markus Armbruster
2011-02-23 20:06                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-24 12:15                       ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-25  7:16                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-23 17:49               ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2011-02-24  8:58                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 15:14                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-24 15:28                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 16:39                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-24 17:32                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 17:45                         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-27  9:22                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 12:46         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-22 20:50   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-22 21:16   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 19:06   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-26  0:02     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-26 13:45       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 19:09         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-03-01  2:35         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-26 15:32       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-22 17:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch 3/3] do not allow migration if block copy in progress Marcelo Tosatti

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