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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [patch 2/3] Add support for live block copy
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:46:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D6501B0.2060309@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D64266A.3060106@codemonkey.ws>

On 02/22/2011 11:11 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> The commit file is considered reliable storage for the result of image
>> switch operation. Think of the following scenario:
>>
>> - mgmt app requests live copy of guests ide1-hd0
>> from /a/image.img to /b/image.img.
>> - mgmt app dies.
>> - guest switches to /b/image.img, /a/image.img is outdated.
>> - guest dies.
>>
>> Notifying the switch via QMP would not be reliable in this case.
>
> But this is true of any number of operations in QEMU such as hotplug 
> where if a management tool dies after requesting hotplug and then the 
> guest dies before the management tool reconnects, it's never known 
> whether it's truly connected or not.
>
> The only way to robustly solve this is for QEMU to maintain a stateful 
> config file.

Or, the management tool can remember that it tries to hotplug, 
reconnect, query qemu (or just retry), and proceed according to the result:

- insert record in config for the new device, status = inactive
- commit
- tell qemu to hotplug
<crash>
- restart, read database, see inactive device
- query qemu
- if device is there, mark as active, commit
- else, tell qemu to hotplug, when successful, mark as active, commit


>   A one-off for this particular command doesn't seem wise to me.

Strongly agreed.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-23 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-22 17:00 [Qemu-devel] [patch 0/3] live block copy (v2) Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 17:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch 1/3] add migration_active function Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 17:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch 2/3] Add support for live block copy Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 20:50   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-02-22 21:07     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 21:11       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-22 23:09         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 23:14           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 13:01             ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 14:35               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 15:31                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 16:01                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 16:14                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 16:28                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 17:18                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 20:18                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 20:44                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-23 21:41                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-24 14:39                                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-24  7:37                             ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-24  8:54                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 15:00                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-24 15:22                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 17:58                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-27  9:10                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-27  9:55                                       ` Dor Laor
2011-02-27 13:49                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-27 16:02                                           ` Dor Laor
2011-02-27 17:25                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28  8:58                                               ` Dor Laor
2011-02-27 14:00                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-27 15:31                                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-27 17:41                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28  8:38                                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-28 12:45                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 13:21                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-28 17:33                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 17:47                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-28 18:12                                                       ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                                                         ` <4D6CB556.5060401@redhat.c! om>
     [not found]                                                         ` <4D6CBECF.8090805@redhat.c! om>
2011-03-01  8:59                                                         ` Dor Laor
2011-03-02 12:39                                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-02 13:00                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-02 15:07                                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-01  9:39                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-01 15:51                                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-01 22:27                                                             ` Dor Laor
2011-03-02 16:30                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-02 21:55                                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 18:56                                                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-03-01  9:45                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 16:17                     ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-23 16:30                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-24  5:41                         ` [Qemu-devel] Unsubsribing James Brown
2011-02-24 10:00                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-23 17:26                   ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [patch 2/3] Add support for live block copy Markus Armbruster
2011-02-23 20:06                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-24 12:15                       ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-25  7:16                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-23 17:49               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-24  8:58                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 15:14                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-24 15:28                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 16:39                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-24 17:32                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 17:45                         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-27  9:22                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 12:46         ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-02-22 20:50   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-22 21:16   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 19:06   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-26  0:02     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-26 13:45       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 19:09         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-03-01  2:35         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-26 15:32       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-22 17:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch 3/3] do not allow migration if block copy in progress Marcelo Tosatti

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