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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Eduardo Valentin <eduardo.valentin@nokia.com>
Cc: ext Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>,
	ext Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	Peter De-Schrijver <Peter.De-Schrijver@nokia.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Ambresh <a0393775@ti.com>,
	Saravana Kannan <skannan@codeaurora.org>,
	Andrei Warkentin <andreiw@motorola.com>,
	Lee Jones <Lee.Jones@linaro.org>,
	Rabin VINCENT <rabin.vincent@stericsson.com>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Jonas ABERG <jonas.aberg@stericsson.com>,
	ext Kevin Hilman <khilman@deeprootsystems.com>,
	David Brown <davidb@codeaurora.org>,
	Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin-nonst@stericsson.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Loic PALLARDY <loic.pallardy@stericsson.com>,
	maxime_coquelin@yahoo.fr, Ryan Mallon <ryan@bluewatersys.com>,
	Linux-OMAP <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Daniel Walker <dwalk>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCHv2 1/2] Export SoC info through sysfs
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:33:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110311193330.GA14204@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110311175816.GC7291@besouro.research.nokia.com>

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 07:58:16PM +0200, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 07:52:57AM -0800, ext Greg KH wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 03:32:51PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > On Friday 11 March 2011, Maxime Coquelin wrote:
> > > > Common base to export System-on-Chip related informations through sysfs.
> > > > 
> > > > Creation of a "socinfo" directory under /sys/.
> > > > Creation of SoC information entries.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Maxime COQUELIN <maxime.coquelin-nonst@stericsson.com>
> > > 
> > > I think it's better than the previous patch to create an
> > > artificial device in /sys/devices/system/socinfo, but I'd
> > > still prefer the information to be attached to a real device
> > > that represents the SOC, as I explained in the discussion with
> > > Linus Walleij.
> > > 
> > > You should definitely add Greg on Cc, as he's maintaining sysfs
> > > and certainly has an opininion here.
> > > 
> > > 	Arnd
> > > 
> > > > ---
> > > >  Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-socinfo |   16 ++++++
> > > >  drivers/base/Kconfig                    |    3 +
> > > >  drivers/base/Makefile                   |    1 +
> > > >  drivers/base/soc.c                      |   79 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  include/linux/sys_soc.h                 |   50 +++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  5 files changed, 149 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-socinfo
> > > >  create mode 100644 drivers/base/soc.c
> > > >  create mode 100644 include/linux/sys_soc.h
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-socinfo b/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-socinfo
> > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > index 0000000..afd9da2
> > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-socinfo
> > > > @@ -0,0 +1,16 @@
> > > > +What:		/sys/socinfo
> > > > +Date:		March 2011
> > > > +contact:	Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin-nonst@stericsson.com>
> > > > +Description:
> > > > +		The /sys/socinfo directory contains information about the
> > > > +		System-on-Chip.	It is only available if platform implements it.
> > > > +		This directory contains two kind of attributes :
> > > > +			- common attributes: 
> > > > +				* machine: the name of the machine.
> > > > +				* family: the family name of the SoC
> > > > +			- SoC-specific attributes: The SoC vendor can declare attributes
> > > > +			  to export some strings to user-space, like the serial-number for
> > > > +			  example.
> > > > +
> > > > +Users:
> > > > +		User-space applications which needs these kind of attributes.
> > 
> > I thought I rejected this the last time it came around?
> > 
> 
> Greg,
> 
> Do you mind sharing the link of the thread where you have reject this?

I don't remember it, you can search as well as I can :)

> > I still fail to understand why this is needed, please provide more
> > information about why you feel this is something that the kernel needs.
> 
> In case of OMAP, there are few ids that we would expose to user space,
> like serial, revision and die id to quote some from top of my mind.
> I must emphasize  that these are not data from CPU at all, they belong
> to SoC itself.

I understand, but note that there could be multiple SoC devices, right?
How will this code support that?

Make this a "real" device not /sys/socinfo please.  It can be a platform
device that export the needed information, that way you can have
multiple ones.

thanks,

greg k-h

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: greg@kroah.com (Greg KH)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCHv2 1/2] Export SoC info through sysfs
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:33:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110311193330.GA14204@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110311175816.GC7291@besouro.research.nokia.com>

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 07:58:16PM +0200, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 07:52:57AM -0800, ext Greg KH wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 03:32:51PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > On Friday 11 March 2011, Maxime Coquelin wrote:
> > > > Common base to export System-on-Chip related informations through sysfs.
> > > > 
> > > > Creation of a "socinfo" directory under /sys/.
> > > > Creation of SoC information entries.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Maxime COQUELIN <maxime.coquelin-nonst@stericsson.com>
> > > 
> > > I think it's better than the previous patch to create an
> > > artificial device in /sys/devices/system/socinfo, but I'd
> > > still prefer the information to be attached to a real device
> > > that represents the SOC, as I explained in the discussion with
> > > Linus Walleij.
> > > 
> > > You should definitely add Greg on Cc, as he's maintaining sysfs
> > > and certainly has an opininion here.
> > > 
> > > 	Arnd
> > > 
> > > > ---
> > > >  Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-socinfo |   16 ++++++
> > > >  drivers/base/Kconfig                    |    3 +
> > > >  drivers/base/Makefile                   |    1 +
> > > >  drivers/base/soc.c                      |   79 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  include/linux/sys_soc.h                 |   50 +++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  5 files changed, 149 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-socinfo
> > > >  create mode 100644 drivers/base/soc.c
> > > >  create mode 100644 include/linux/sys_soc.h
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-socinfo b/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-socinfo
> > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > index 0000000..afd9da2
> > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-socinfo
> > > > @@ -0,0 +1,16 @@
> > > > +What:		/sys/socinfo
> > > > +Date:		March 2011
> > > > +contact:	Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin-nonst@stericsson.com>
> > > > +Description:
> > > > +		The /sys/socinfo directory contains information about the
> > > > +		System-on-Chip.	It is only available if platform implements it.
> > > > +		This directory contains two kind of attributes :
> > > > +			- common attributes: 
> > > > +				* machine: the name of the machine.
> > > > +				* family: the family name of the SoC
> > > > +			- SoC-specific attributes: The SoC vendor can declare attributes
> > > > +			  to export some strings to user-space, like the serial-number for
> > > > +			  example.
> > > > +
> > > > +Users:
> > > > +		User-space applications which needs these kind of attributes.
> > 
> > I thought I rejected this the last time it came around?
> > 
> 
> Greg,
> 
> Do you mind sharing the link of the thread where you have reject this?

I don't remember it, you can search as well as I can :)

> > I still fail to understand why this is needed, please provide more
> > information about why you feel this is something that the kernel needs.
> 
> In case of OMAP, there are few ids that we would expose to user space,
> like serial, revision and die id to quote some from top of my mind.
> I must emphasize  that these are not data from CPU at all, they belong
> to SoC itself.

I understand, but note that there could be multiple SoC devices, right?
How will this code support that?

Make this a "real" device not /sys/socinfo please.  It can be a platform
device that export the needed information, that way you can have
multiple ones.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-11 19:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-11 12:35 [RFC PATCHv2 0/2] Export SoC info through sysfs Maxime Coquelin
2011-03-11 12:35 ` Maxime Coquelin
2011-03-11 12:35 ` Maxime Coquelin
2011-03-11 12:35 ` [RFC PATCHv2 1/2] " Maxime Coquelin
2011-03-11 12:35   ` Maxime Coquelin
2011-03-11 12:35   ` Maxime Coquelin
2011-03-11 13:50   ` Eduardo Valentin
2011-03-11 13:50     ` Eduardo Valentin
2011-03-11 15:40     ` Maxime Coquelin
2011-03-11 15:40       ` Maxime Coquelin
2011-03-11 17:35       ` Eduardo Valentin
2011-03-11 17:35         ` Eduardo Valentin
2011-03-11 14:32   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11 14:32     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11 14:31     ` Eduardo Valentin
2011-03-11 14:31       ` Eduardo Valentin
2011-03-11 15:40     ` Ben Dooks
2011-03-11 15:40       ` Ben Dooks
2011-03-11 17:38       ` Eduardo Valentin
2011-03-11 17:38         ` Eduardo Valentin
2011-03-11 15:52     ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 15:52       ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 17:58       ` Eduardo Valentin
2011-03-11 17:58         ` Eduardo Valentin
2011-03-11 19:33         ` Greg KH [this message]
2011-03-11 19:33           ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 21:42           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11 21:42             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11 22:03             ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 22:03               ` Greg KH
2011-03-11 22:13               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11 22:13                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-07 16:24                 ` Lee Jones
2011-04-07 16:24                   ` Lee Jones
2011-04-07 21:29                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-07 21:29                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-07 21:46                     ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-07 21:46                       ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-07 22:01                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-04-07 22:01                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-04-07 22:07                         ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-07 22:07                           ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-07 22:45                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-04-07 22:45                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-04-07 22:56                             ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-07 22:56                               ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-07 23:19                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-07 23:19                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-07 23:29                                 ` Greg KH
2011-04-07 23:29                                   ` Greg KH
2011-04-08  3:35                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-08  3:35                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-08  7:41                                     ` Lee Jones
2011-04-08  7:41                                       ` Lee Jones
2011-04-08 15:02                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-08 15:02                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-08 15:43                                         ` Lee Jones
2011-04-08 15:43                                           ` Lee Jones
2011-04-08 20:22                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-08 20:22                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11 12:35 ` [RFC PATCHv2 2/2] ux500: Export U8500 " Maxime Coquelin
2011-03-11 12:35   ` Maxime Coquelin
2011-03-11 12:35   ` Maxime Coquelin
2011-03-11 14:11   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-03-11 14:11     ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-03-11 15:20     ` Linus Walleij
2011-03-11 15:20       ` Linus Walleij
2011-03-11 17:24       ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-03-11 17:24         ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD

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