From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
tee@sgi.com, Nikanth Karthikesan <knikanth@suse.de>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] x86: avoid atomic operation in test_and_set_bit_lock if possible
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:35:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110325093509.GC13640@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimib3TqemF9L=VNkcXT3uFam1gYmVtuA3wrAv1j@mail.gmail.com>
* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> ,, and I'd like to point out that we should just say "screw the
> f*cking BIOS, it's doing things wrong". And then just take over the
> PMU events, and make sure that they aren't routed to SCI. Instead of
> the current "ok, roll over and die when the BIOS does something
> idiotic".
>
> People continuously claim that the BIOS really needs it, and I have
> never EVER seen any good explanation of why that particular sh*t
> argument would b true. It seems to be purely about politics, where
> some idiotic vendor (namely HP) has convinced Intel that they really
> need it. To the point where some engineers seem to have bought into
> the whole thing and actually believe that fairy tale ("firmware can do
> better" - hah! They must be feeding people some bad drugs at the
> cafeteria)
Ok, fully agreed, and i've changed the code to "detect the BIOS breakage,
warn about it but otherwise ignore the BIOS".
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-25 9:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-24 4:56 [PATCH RFC] x86: avoid atomic operation in test_and_set_bit_lock if possible Nikanth Karthikesan
2011-03-24 8:52 ` Jan Beulich
2011-03-24 8:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-24 14:52 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-03-24 16:48 ` Jan Beulich
2011-03-24 17:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 10:06 ` Jan Beulich
2011-03-25 11:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 12:04 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2011-03-25 13:12 ` Jack Steiner
2011-03-25 16:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-25 16:47 ` Jan Beulich
2011-03-25 16:49 ` Jack Steiner
2011-03-24 17:30 ` Jack Steiner
2011-03-24 20:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-24 20:40 ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-24 20:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-24 21:37 ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-24 20:48 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-24 20:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-24 21:02 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-24 21:42 ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-24 23:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-24 23:56 ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-25 5:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-25 9:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 9:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-25 9:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 10:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-03-25 11:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-25 11:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 16:16 ` Robert Richter
2011-03-25 17:22 ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-25 19:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 9:38 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-25 20:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-26 8:15 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-26 9:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-26 9:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 9:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 10:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-25 16:08 ` Robert Richter
2011-03-25 19:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 17:15 ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-25 19:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 9:35 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-03-24 17:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-24 17:13 ` Jack Steiner
2011-03-24 18:38 ` Andi Kleen
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