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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH,RFC] perf: panic due to inclied cpu context task_ctx value
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:30:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110330183049.GK2255@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110330163730.GA6038@redhat.com>

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 06:37:30PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 03/30, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >
> > --- linux-2.6.orig/kernel/perf_event.c
> > +++ linux-2.6/kernel/perf_event.c
> > @@ -125,9 +125,25 @@ enum event_type_t {
> >   * perf_sched_events : >0 events exist
> >   * perf_cgroup_events: >0 per-cpu cgroup events exist on this cpu
> >   */
> > -atomic_t perf_sched_events __read_mostly;
> > +atomic_t perf_sched_events_in __read_mostly;
> > +atomic_t perf_sched_events_out __read_mostly;
> >  static DEFINE_PER_CPU(atomic_t, perf_cgroup_events);
> >
> > +static void perf_sched_events_inc(void)
> > +{
> > +	jump_label_inc(&perf_sched_events_out);
> > +	jump_label_inc(&perf_sched_events_in);
> > +}
> > +
> > +static void perf_sched_events_dec(void)
> > +{
> > +	jump_label_dec(&perf_sched_events_in);
> > +	JUMP_LABEL(&perf_sched_events_in, no_sync);
> > +	synchronize_sched();
> > +no_sync:
> > +	jump_label_dec(&perf_sched_events_out);
> > +}
> 
> Nice! I didn't realize we can simply use JUMP_LABEL() directly and then
> the code doesn't depend on HAVE_JUMP_LABEL.
> 
> Now, the problem is, after I read the comments I am not sure I understand
> what synchronize_sched() actually doe. Add Paul.
> 
> So. synchronize_sched() above should ensure that all CPUs do context
> switch at least once (ignoring idle). And I _thought_ that in practice
> this should work.
> 
> But, unles I misread the comment above synchronize_sched(), it seems that
> it only guarantees the end of "everything" which disables preemption,
> explicitly or not. IOW, say, in theory rcu_read_unlock_sched() could
> trigger ->passed_quiesc == T without reschedule.

For rcu_read_lock() in preemptible RCU, this is true.  But for
rcu_read_unlock_sched(), the only way rcu_note_context_switch() is called
is if the code is preempted, which ends up calling schedule().

> Oh, and this is not theoretical, afaics. run_ksoftirqd() does
> rcu_note_context_switch().

Interesting...  Color me confused.

Suppose the rcu_note_context_switch() in run_ksoftirqd() was replaced
with schedule().  This has to be OK, right?  But schedule() itself
invokes rcu_note_context_switch().  So if it is OK to call schedule(),
it should be OK to call rcu_note_context_switch() directly, right?

So, what am I missing here?

> So, I think we need something else :/

The thing that I would be more concerned about is the idle loop.
If a CPU is in the idle loop, then rcu_sched_qs() will be invoked
(and which is invoked by rcu_note_context_switch()).  So is it
illegal to use the above in the idle loop?

BTW, if it turns out that the idle loop is a problem, I could put
an explicit call to rcu_sched_qs() in the affected idle loops.
But currently anything in an idle thread is a quiescent state.

						Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-30 18:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-24 16:44 [PATCH,RFC] perf: panic due to inclied cpu context task_ctx value Jiri Olsa
2011-03-25 19:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-26 15:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-26 16:13   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-26 16:38     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-26 17:09       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-26 17:35         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-26 18:29           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-26 18:49             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-28 13:30             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-28 14:57               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 15:00                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 15:15                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-28 16:27                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 15:39                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-28 15:49                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 16:56                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-29  8:32                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-29 10:49                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-29 16:28                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-29 19:01                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-30 13:09                     ` Jiri Olsa
2011-03-30 14:51                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-30 16:37                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-30 18:30                           ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2011-03-30 19:53                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-30 21:26                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-30 21:35                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-31 10:32                             ` Jiri Olsa
2011-03-31 12:41                             ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: Fix task context scheduling tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-31 13:28                         ` [PATCH,RFC] perf: panic due to inclied cpu context task_ctx value Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-31 13:51                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-31 14:10                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-04 16:20                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-30 15:32                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-30 15:40                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-30 15:52                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-30 15:57                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-30 16:11                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-30 17:13                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-26 17:09       ` Peter Zijlstra

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