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From: Andres Salomon <dilinger-pFFUokh25LWsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Samuel Ortiz <sameo-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Mark Brown
	<broonie-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>,
	khali-PUYAD+kWke1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org,
	ben-linux-elnMNo+KYs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	Peter Korsgaard <jacmet-OfajU3CKLf1/SzgSGea1oA@public.gmane.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab
	<mchehab-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	David Brownell
	<dbrownell-Rn4VEauK+AKRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-media-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	spi-devel-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	Mocean Laboratories
	<info-l7gf1WXxx3uGw+nKnLezzg@public.gmane.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/19] timberdale: mfd_cell is now implicitly available to drivers
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 17:10:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110401171001.61283e2d@debxo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=bq=OGzXFp7qiBr7x_BnGOWf=DRQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 17:58:44 -0600
Grant Likely <grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Samuel Ortiz <sameo-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 11:56:35AM -0600, Grant Likely wrote:
> >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Andres Salomon
> >> <dilinger-pFFUokh25LWsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:20:31 +0200
> >> > Samuel Ortiz <sameo-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Grant,
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 05:05:22PM -0600, Grant Likely wrote:
> >> > [...]
> >> >> > Gah.  Not all devices instantiated via mfd will be an mfd
> >> >> > device, which means that the driver may very well expect an
> >> >> > *entirely different* platform_device pointer; which further
> >> >> > means a very high potential of incorrectly dereferenced
> >> >> > structures (as evidenced by a patch series that is not
> >> >> > bisectable).  For instance, the xilinx ip cores are used by
> >> >> > more than just mfd.
> >> >> I agree. Since the vast majority of the MFD subdevices are MFD
> >> >> specific IPs, I overlooked that part. The impacted drivers are
> >> >> the timberdale and the DaVinci voice codec ones.
> >>
> >> Another option is you could do this for MFD devices:
> >>
> >> struct mfd_device {
> >>         struct platform_devce pdev;
> >>         struct mfd_cell *cell;
> >> };
> >>
> >> However, that requires that drivers using the mfd_cell will *never*
> >> get instantiated outside of the mfd infrastructure, and there is no
> >> way to protect against this so it is probably a bad idea.
> >>
> >> Or, mfd_cell could be added to platform_device directly which would
> >> *by far* be the safest option at the cost of every platform_device
> >> having a mostly unused mfd_cell pointer.  Not a significant cost
> >> in my opinion.
> > I thought about this one, but I had the impression people would
> > want to kill me for adding an MFD specific pointer to
> > platform_device. I guess it's worth giving it a try since it would
> > be a simple and safe solution. I'll look at it later this weekend.
> >
> > Thanks for the input.
> 
> [cc'ing gregkh because we're talking about modifying struct
> platform_device]
> 
> I'll back you up on this one.  It is a far better solution than the
> alternatives.  At least with mfd, it covers a large set of devices.  I
> think there is a strong argument for doing this.  Or alternatively,
> the particular interesting fields from mfd_cell could be added to
> platform_device.  What information do child devices need access to?
> 

This was one of the things I was originally tempted to do (adding
mfd fields to platform_device).  I didn't think it would fly.

I can look at this stuff or help out once I have a stable internet
connection and I'm all moved in to my new place (which should be
Wednesday).

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From: Andres Salomon <dilinger@queued.net>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
Cc: Samuel Ortiz <sameo@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	khali@linux-fr.org, ben-linux@fluff.org,
	Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@sunsite.dk>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>,
	David Brownell <dbrownell@users.sourceforge.net>,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, spi-devel-general@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Mocean Laboratories <info@mocean-labs.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/19] timberdale: mfd_cell is now implicitly available to drivers
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 17:10:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110401171001.61283e2d@debxo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=bq=OGzXFp7qiBr7x_BnGOWf=DRQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 17:58:44 -0600
Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Samuel Ortiz <sameo@linux.intel.com>
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 11:56:35AM -0600, Grant Likely wrote:
> >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Andres Salomon
> >> <dilinger@queued.net> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:20:31 +0200
> >> > Samuel Ortiz <sameo@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Grant,
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 05:05:22PM -0600, Grant Likely wrote:
> >> > [...]
> >> >> > Gah.  Not all devices instantiated via mfd will be an mfd
> >> >> > device, which means that the driver may very well expect an
> >> >> > *entirely different* platform_device pointer; which further
> >> >> > means a very high potential of incorrectly dereferenced
> >> >> > structures (as evidenced by a patch series that is not
> >> >> > bisectable).  For instance, the xilinx ip cores are used by
> >> >> > more than just mfd.
> >> >> I agree. Since the vast majority of the MFD subdevices are MFD
> >> >> specific IPs, I overlooked that part. The impacted drivers are
> >> >> the timberdale and the DaVinci voice codec ones.
> >>
> >> Another option is you could do this for MFD devices:
> >>
> >> struct mfd_device {
> >>         struct platform_devce pdev;
> >>         struct mfd_cell *cell;
> >> };
> >>
> >> However, that requires that drivers using the mfd_cell will *never*
> >> get instantiated outside of the mfd infrastructure, and there is no
> >> way to protect against this so it is probably a bad idea.
> >>
> >> Or, mfd_cell could be added to platform_device directly which would
> >> *by far* be the safest option at the cost of every platform_device
> >> having a mostly unused mfd_cell pointer.  Not a significant cost
> >> in my opinion.
> > I thought about this one, but I had the impression people would
> > want to kill me for adding an MFD specific pointer to
> > platform_device. I guess it's worth giving it a try since it would
> > be a simple and safe solution. I'll look at it later this weekend.
> >
> > Thanks for the input.
> 
> [cc'ing gregkh because we're talking about modifying struct
> platform_device]
> 
> I'll back you up on this one.  It is a far better solution than the
> alternatives.  At least with mfd, it covers a large set of devices.  I
> think there is a strong argument for doing this.  Or alternatively,
> the particular interesting fields from mfd_cell could be added to
> platform_device.  What information do child devices need access to?
> 

This was one of the things I was originally tempted to do (adding
mfd fields to platform_device).  I didn't think it would fly.

I can look at this stuff or help out once I have a stable internet
connection and I'm all moved in to my new place (which should be
Wednesday).




  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-04-02  0:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-03  3:54 [RFC] [PATCH 0/19] mfd sharing support Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  3:55 ` [PATCH 01/19] mfd-core: unconditionally add mfd_cell to every platform_device Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  3:58 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 02/19] jz4740: mfd_cell is now implicitly Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  3:58   ` [PATCH 02/19] jz4740: mfd_cell is now implicitly available to drivers Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  8:09   ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 02/19] jz4740: mfd_cell is now implicitly Jean Delvare
2011-02-03  8:09     ` [PATCH 02/19] jz4740: mfd_cell is now implicitly available to drivers Jean Delvare
2011-02-03  4:01 ` [PATCH 03/19] ab3550: " Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  4:01   ` Andres Salomon
2011-02-04  8:20   ` Mattias Wallin
2011-02-04  8:20     ` Mattias Wallin
2011-02-03  4:03 ` [PATCH 04/19] ab3100: " Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  4:03   ` Andres Salomon
2011-02-03 12:52   ` Linus Walleij
2011-02-03 12:52     ` Linus Walleij
2011-02-03  4:04 ` [PATCH 05/19] asic3: " Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  4:05 ` [PATCH 06/19] htc-pasic3: " Andres Salomon
     [not found] ` <20110202195417.228e2656-pFFUokh25LWsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-03  4:08   ` [PATCH 07/19] timberdale: " Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  4:08     ` Andres Salomon
2011-03-31 23:05     ` Grant Likely
     [not found]       ` <20110331230522.GI437-e0URQFbLeQY2iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-01 11:20         ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-04-01 11:20           ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-04-01 17:47           ` Andres Salomon
2011-04-01 17:47             ` Andres Salomon
2011-04-01 17:56             ` Grant Likely
2011-04-01 17:56               ` Grant Likely
2011-04-01 18:00               ` Grant Likely
     [not found]               ` <BANLkTi=bCd_+f=EG-O=U5VH_ZNjFhxkziQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-01 23:52                 ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-04-01 23:52                   ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-04-01 23:58                   ` Grant Likely
2011-04-01 23:58                     ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                     ` <BANLkTi=bq=OGzXFp7qiBr7x_BnGOWf=DRQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-02  0:10                       ` Andres Salomon [this message]
2011-04-02  0:10                         ` Andres Salomon
2011-04-04 10:03                       ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-04-04 10:03                         ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-04-05  3:04                         ` Grant Likely
2011-04-06 15:23                           ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-04-06 15:58                             ` Greg KH
2011-04-06 15:58                               ` Greg KH
2011-04-06 17:05                               ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-04-06 17:16                                 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-04-06 17:51                                   ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-04-06 17:51                                     ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-04-06 18:07                                     ` Ben Hutchings
2011-04-06 18:07                                       ` Ben Hutchings
2011-04-06 17:56                                 ` Greg KH
2011-04-06 18:25                                   ` Andres Salomon
2011-04-06 18:38                                     ` Greg KH
2011-04-06 18:38                                       ` Greg KH
     [not found]                                       ` <20110406183854.GA10058-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-07  8:04                                         ` Grant Likely
2011-04-07  8:04                                           ` Grant Likely
2011-04-06 18:47                                   ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-04-06 18:59                                     ` Felipe Balbi
2011-04-06 18:59                                       ` Felipe Balbi
     [not found]                                       ` <20110406185902.GN25654-UiBtZHVXSwEVvW8u9ZQWYwjfymiNCTlR@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-06 22:09                                         ` Greg KH
2011-04-06 22:09                                           ` Greg KH
2011-04-07  8:09                                           ` Felipe Balbi
2011-04-07 13:40                                         ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-04-07 13:40                                           ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-04-07 14:35                                           ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                             ` <20110407143515.GC26452-MrY2KI0G/OVr83L8+7iqerDks+cytr/Z@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-07 15:03                                               ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-04-07 15:03                                                 ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-04-07 18:06                                                 ` Grant Likely
2011-04-07 18:06                                                   ` Grant Likely
2011-04-07 16:24                           ` Grant Likely
2011-04-01 18:26             ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-02-03  4:09 ` [PATCH 08/19] t7166xb: " Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  4:11 ` [PATCH 09/19] wl1273: " Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  4:12 ` [PATCH 10/19] sh_mobile_sdhi: " Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  4:13 ` [PATCH 11/19] tc6393xb: " Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  4:15 ` [PATCH 12/19] twl4030: " Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  6:05   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-03  6:39     ` Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  6:53       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-03  7:03         ` Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  7:03           ` Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  9:31           ` Mark Brown
2011-02-03  9:31             ` Mark Brown
2011-02-05  2:39             ` Andres Salomon
2011-02-05  3:25               ` Andres Salomon
2011-02-03 12:23           ` Peter Ujfalusi
2011-02-03 12:23             ` Peter Ujfalusi
2011-02-04 10:41           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-03  4:16 ` [PATCH 13/19] tc6387xb: " Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  4:17 ` [PATCH 14/19] janz: " Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  4:20 ` [PATCH 15/19] mc13xxx: " Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  4:20   ` Andres Salomon
2011-02-04  9:34   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-04  9:34     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-04 10:13     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-04 10:13       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-04 10:16     ` Andres Salomon
2011-02-04 10:16       ` Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  4:21 ` [PATCH 16/19] mfd-core: drop platform_data/data_size from core mfd_cell struct Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  4:22 ` [PATCH 17/19] mfd-core: add refcounting support to mfd_cells Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 18/19] mfd-core: add platform_device sharing support for mfd Andres Salomon
2011-02-03  4:26 ` [PATCH 19/19] cs5535-mfd: add sharing for acpi/pms cells Andres Salomon

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