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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux-Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] Swap-over-NBD without deadlocking
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:42:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110428134235.GW4658@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110428133154.GA8572@ucw.cz>

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 03:31:55PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> 
> > For testing swap-over-NBD, a machine was booted with 2G of RAM with a
> > swapfile backed by NBD. 16*NUM_CPU processes were started that create
> > anonymous memory mappings and read them linearly in a loop. The total
> > size of the mappings were 4*PHYSICAL_MEMORY to use swap heavily under
> > memory pressure. Without the patches, the machine locks up within
> > minutes and runs to completion with them applied.
> > 
> > Comments?
> 
> Nice!
> 
> It  is easy to see why swapping needs these fixes, but... dirty memory
> writeout is used for memory clearing, too. Are same changes neccessary
> to make that safe?
> 

Dirty page limiting covers the MAP_SHARED cases and are already
throttled approprately.

> (Perhaps raise 'max dirty %' for testing?)

Stress testing passed for dirty ratios of 40% at least. Maybe it would
cause issues when raised to nearly 100% but I don't think that is a
particularly interesting use case.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux-Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] Swap-over-NBD without deadlocking
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:42:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110428134235.GW4658@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110428133154.GA8572@ucw.cz>

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 03:31:55PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> 
> > For testing swap-over-NBD, a machine was booted with 2G of RAM with a
> > swapfile backed by NBD. 16*NUM_CPU processes were started that create
> > anonymous memory mappings and read them linearly in a loop. The total
> > size of the mappings were 4*PHYSICAL_MEMORY to use swap heavily under
> > memory pressure. Without the patches, the machine locks up within
> > minutes and runs to completion with them applied.
> > 
> > Comments?
> 
> Nice!
> 
> It  is easy to see why swapping needs these fixes, but... dirty memory
> writeout is used for memory clearing, too. Are same changes neccessary
> to make that safe?
> 

Dirty page limiting covers the MAP_SHARED cases and are already
throttled approprately.

> (Perhaps raise 'max dirty %' for testing?)

Stress testing passed for dirty ratios of 40% at least. Maybe it would
cause issues when raised to nearly 100% but I don't think that is a
particularly interesting use case.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-28 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-26  7:36 [PATCH 00/13] Swap-over-NBD without deadlocking Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36 ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36 ` [PATCH 01/13] mm: Serialize access to min_free_kbytes Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36 ` [PATCH 02/13] mm: sl[au]b: Add knowledge of PFMEMALLOC reserve pages Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26 11:15   ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26 11:15     ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26 11:33     ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26 11:33       ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26 12:05       ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26 12:05         ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26 11:37   ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26 11:37     ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26 13:59     ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26 13:59       ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-27 23:21       ` NeilBrown
2011-04-27 23:21         ` NeilBrown
2011-04-28  9:46         ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28  9:46           ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36 ` [PATCH 03/13] mm: Introduce __GFP_MEMALLOC to allow access to emergency reserves Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  9:49   ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26  9:49     ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26 10:36     ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26 10:36       ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26 10:53       ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26 10:53         ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26 14:00         ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26 14:00           ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36 ` [PATCH 04/13] mm: allow PF_MEMALLOC from softirq context Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36 ` [PATCH 05/13] mm: Ignore mempolicies when using ALLOC_NO_WATERMARK Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36 ` [PATCH 06/13] net: Introduce sk_allocation() to allow addition of GFP flags depending on the individual socket Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36 ` [PATCH 07/13] netvm: Allow the use of __GFP_MEMALLOC by specific sockets Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36 ` [PATCH 08/13] netvm: Allow skb allocation to use PFMEMALLOC reserves Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36 ` [PATCH 09/13] netvm: Set PF_MEMALLOC as appropriate during SKB processing Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26 12:21   ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26 12:21     ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26 14:10     ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26 14:10       ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26 23:22       ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26 23:22         ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26  7:36 ` [PATCH 10/13] mm: Micro-optimise slab to avoid a function call Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36 ` [PATCH 11/13] nbd: Set SOCK_MEMALLOC for access to PFMEMALLOC reserves Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36 ` [PATCH 12/13] mm: Throttle direct reclaimers if PF_MEMALLOC reserves are low and swap is backed by network storage Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26 12:30   ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26 12:30     ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26 14:26     ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26 14:26       ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26 23:18       ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26 23:18         ` NeilBrown
2011-04-27  8:36         ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-27  8:36           ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36 ` [PATCH 13/13] mm: Account for the number of times direct reclaimers get throttled Mel Gorman
2011-04-26  7:36   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26 12:35   ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26 12:35     ` NeilBrown
2011-04-26 14:26     ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26 14:26       ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26 14:23 ` [PATCH 00/13] Swap-over-NBD without deadlocking Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-26 14:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-26 14:46   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26 14:46     ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-26 14:50     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-26 14:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-27  8:43       ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-27  8:43         ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 13:31 ` Pavel Machek
2011-04-28 13:31   ` Pavel Machek
2011-04-28 13:42   ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2011-04-28 13:42     ` Mel Gorman

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