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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Itaru Kitayama <kitayama@cl.bb4u.ne.jp>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] writeback: refill b_io iff empty
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 00:47:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110505164712.GA2548@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110505163708.GN5323@quack.suse.cz>

On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 12:37:08AM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Wed 04-05-11 15:39:31, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > To help understand the behavior change, I wrote the writeback_queue_io
> > trace event, and found very different patterns between
> > - vanilla kernel
> > - this patchset plus the sync livelock fixes
> > 
> > Basically the vanilla kernel each time pulls a random number of inodes
> > from b_dirty, while the patched kernel tends to pull a fixed number of
> > inodes (enqueue=1031) from b_dirty. The new behavior is very interesting...
>   This regularity is really strange. Did you have a chance to look more into
> it? I find it highly unlikely that there would be exactly 1031 dirty inodes
> in b_dirty list every time you call move_expired_inodes()...

Yeah that's the weird point. The other things I noticed are more
regular "flusher - dd - flusher - dd - ..." writeout patterns after
the patches.  In vanilla kernel it behaves more randomly and there are
many balance_dirty_pages() IOs from tar.

I'll try to collect more traces in ext4 tomorrow. Sorry it's too late
for me now.

Thanks,
Fengguang

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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Itaru Kitayama <kitayama@cl.bb4u.ne.jp>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] writeback: refill b_io iff empty
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 00:47:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110505164712.GA2548@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110505163708.GN5323@quack.suse.cz>

On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 12:37:08AM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Wed 04-05-11 15:39:31, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > To help understand the behavior change, I wrote the writeback_queue_io
> > trace event, and found very different patterns between
> > - vanilla kernel
> > - this patchset plus the sync livelock fixes
> > 
> > Basically the vanilla kernel each time pulls a random number of inodes
> > from b_dirty, while the patched kernel tends to pull a fixed number of
> > inodes (enqueue=1031) from b_dirty. The new behavior is very interesting...
>   This regularity is really strange. Did you have a chance to look more into
> it? I find it highly unlikely that there would be exactly 1031 dirty inodes
> in b_dirty list every time you call move_expired_inodes()...

Yeah that's the weird point. The other things I noticed are more
regular "flusher - dd - flusher - dd - ..." writeout patterns after
the patches.  In vanilla kernel it behaves more randomly and there are
many balance_dirty_pages() IOs from tar.

I'll try to collect more traces in ext4 tomorrow. Sorry it's too late
for me now.

Thanks,
Fengguang

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-05 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-20  8:03 [PATCH 0/6] writeback: moving expire targets for background/kupdate works v2 Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20  8:03 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20  8:03 ` [PATCH 1/6] writeback: pass writeback_control down to move_expired_inodes() Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20  8:03   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-04 11:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-04 11:04     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-04 11:13     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-04 11:13       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20  8:03 ` [PATCH 2/6] writeback: introduce writeback_control.inodes_cleaned Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20  8:03   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20  8:03   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-04 11:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-04 11:05     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-04 11:11     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-04 11:11       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-04 11:16       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-04 11:16         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-04 11:32         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-04 11:32           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20  8:03 ` [PATCH 3/6] writeback: try more writeback as long as something was written Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20  8:03   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20  8:03   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20  8:03 ` [PATCH 4/6] writeback: the kupdate expire timestamp should be a moving target Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20  8:03   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20  8:03 ` [PATCH 5/6] writeback: sync expired inodes first in background writeback Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20  8:03   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20  8:03   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20 23:40   ` Andrew Morton
2011-04-20 23:40     ` Andrew Morton
2011-04-20 23:40     ` Andrew Morton
2011-04-21  1:14     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21  1:14       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21  1:21       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21  1:21         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-24  3:15     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-24  3:15       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-26 12:17       ` Jan Kara
2011-04-26 12:17         ` Jan Kara
2011-04-26 13:51         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-26 13:51           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-26 13:59           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-26 13:59             ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-26 14:05           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-26 14:05             ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-27 11:15           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-27 11:15             ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20  8:03 ` [PATCH 6/6] writeback: refill b_io iff empty Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20  8:03   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20  8:03   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-04  7:39   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-05 16:37     ` Jan Kara
2011-05-05 16:37       ` Jan Kara
2011-05-05 16:47       ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2011-05-05 16:47         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06  5:29       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06  5:29         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06  8:42         ` [RFC][PATCH] writeback: limit number of moved inodes in queue_io() Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06  8:42           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06 10:06           ` [RFC][PATCH v2] " Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06 10:06             ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06 23:06             ` Dave Chinner
2011-05-06 23:06               ` Dave Chinner
2011-05-06 14:21         ` [PATCH 6/6] writeback: refill b_io iff empty Jan Kara
2011-05-06 14:21           ` Jan Kara
2011-05-10  4:31           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-10  4:53             ` Dave Chinner
2011-05-10  4:53               ` Dave Chinner

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