From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Andrew Lutomirski <luto@mit.edu>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Kernel falls apart under light memory pressure (i.e. linking vmlinux)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 14:00:01 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110517060001.GC24069@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTim-AnEeL=z1sYm=iN7sMnG0+m0SHw@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:12:36PM -0400, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 09:37:58AM +0800, Minchan Kim wrote:
> >> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:
> >> > Copying back linux-mm.
> >> >
> >> >> Recently, we added following patch.
> >> >> https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/4/26/129
> >> >> If it's a culprit, the patch should solve the problem.
> >> >
> >> > It would be probably better to not do the allocations at all under
> >> > memory pressure. Even if the RA allocation doesn't go into reclaim
> >>
> >> Fair enough.
> >> I think we can do it easily now.
> >> If page_cache_alloc_readahead(ie, GFP_NORETRY) is fail, we can adjust
> >> RA window size or turn off a while. The point is that we can use the
> >> fail of __do_page_cache_readahead as sign of memory pressure.
> >> Wu, What do you think?
> >
> > No, disabling readahead can hardly help.
> >
> > The sequential readahead memory consumption can be estimated by
> >
> > 2 * (number of concurrent read streams) * (readahead window size)
> >
> > And you can double that when there are two level of readaheads.
> >
> > Since there are hardly any concurrent read streams in Andy's case,
> > the readahead memory consumption will be ignorable.
> >
> > Typically readahead thrashing will happen long before excessive
> > GFP_NORETRY failures, so the reasonable solutions are to
> >
> > - shrink readahead window on readahead thrashing
> > (current readahead heuristic can somehow do this, and I have patches
> > to further improve it)
> >
> > - prevent abnormal GFP_NORETRY failures
> > (when there are many reclaimable pages)
> >
> >
> > Andy's OOM memory dump (incorrect_oom_kill.txt.xz) shows that there are
> >
> > - 8MB active+inactive file pages
> > - 160MB active+inactive anon pages
> > - 1GB shmem pages
> > - 1.4GB unevictable pages
> >
> > Hmm, why are there so many unevictable pages? How come the shmem
> > pages become unevictable when there are plenty of swap space?
>
> That was probably because one of my testcases creates a 1.4GB file on
> ramfs. (I can provoke the problem without doing evil things like
> that, but the test script is rather reliable at killing my system and
> it works fine on my other machines.)
Ah I didn't read your first email.. I'm now running
./test_mempressure.sh 1500 1400 1
with mem=2G and no swap, but cannot reproduce OOM.
What's your kconfig?
> If you want, I can try to generate a trace that isn't polluted with
> the evil ramfs file.
No, thanks. However it would be valuable if you can retry with this
patch _alone_ (without the "if (need_resched()) return false;" change,
as I don't see how it helps your case).
@@ -2286,7 +2290,7 @@ static bool sleeping_prematurely(pg_data_t
*pgdat, int order, long remaining,
* must be balanced
*/
if (order)
- return pgdat_balanced(pgdat, balanced, classzone_idx);
+ return !pgdat_balanced(pgdat, balanced, classzone_idx);
else
return !all_zones_ok;
}
Thanks,
Fengguang
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Andrew Lutomirski <luto@mit.edu>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Kernel falls apart under light memory pressure (i.e. linking vmlinux)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 14:00:01 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110517060001.GC24069@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTim-AnEeL=z1sYm=iN7sMnG0+m0SHw@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:12:36PM -0400, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 09:37:58AM +0800, Minchan Kim wrote:
> >> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:
> >> > Copying back linux-mm.
> >> >
> >> >> Recently, we added following patch.
> >> >> https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/4/26/129
> >> >> If it's a culprit, the patch should solve the problem.
> >> >
> >> > It would be probably better to not do the allocations at all under
> >> > memory pressure. A Even if the RA allocation doesn't go into reclaim
> >>
> >> Fair enough.
> >> I think we can do it easily now.
> >> If page_cache_alloc_readahead(ie, GFP_NORETRY) is fail, we can adjust
> >> RA window size or turn off a while. The point is that we can use the
> >> fail of __do_page_cache_readahead as sign of memory pressure.
> >> Wu, What do you think?
> >
> > No, disabling readahead can hardly help.
> >
> > The sequential readahead memory consumption can be estimated by
> >
> > A A A A A A A A 2 * (number of concurrent read streams) * (readahead window size)
> >
> > And you can double that when there are two level of readaheads.
> >
> > Since there are hardly any concurrent read streams in Andy's case,
> > the readahead memory consumption will be ignorable.
> >
> > Typically readahead thrashing will happen long before excessive
> > GFP_NORETRY failures, so the reasonable solutions are to
> >
> > - shrink readahead window on readahead thrashing
> > A (current readahead heuristic can somehow do this, and I have patches
> > A to further improve it)
> >
> > - prevent abnormal GFP_NORETRY failures
> > A (when there are many reclaimable pages)
> >
> >
> > Andy's OOM memory dump (incorrect_oom_kill.txt.xz) shows that there are
> >
> > - 8MB A active+inactive file pages
> > - 160MB active+inactive anon pages
> > - 1GB A shmem pages
> > - 1.4GB unevictable pages
> >
> > Hmm, why are there so many unevictable pages? A How come the shmem
> > pages become unevictable when there are plenty of swap space?
>
> That was probably because one of my testcases creates a 1.4GB file on
> ramfs. (I can provoke the problem without doing evil things like
> that, but the test script is rather reliable at killing my system and
> it works fine on my other machines.)
Ah I didn't read your first email.. I'm now running
./test_mempressure.sh 1500 1400 1
with mem=2G and no swap, but cannot reproduce OOM.
What's your kconfig?
> If you want, I can try to generate a trace that isn't polluted with
> the evil ramfs file.
No, thanks. However it would be valuable if you can retry with this
patch _alone_ (without the "if (need_resched()) return false;" change,
as I don't see how it helps your case).
@@ -2286,7 +2290,7 @@ static bool sleeping_prematurely(pg_data_t
*pgdat, int order, long remaining,
* must be balanced
*/
if (order)
- return pgdat_balanced(pgdat, balanced, classzone_idx);
+ return !pgdat_balanced(pgdat, balanced, classzone_idx);
else
return !all_zones_ok;
}
Thanks,
Fengguang
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2011-05-11 22:42 Kernel falls apart under light memory pressure (i.e. linking vmlinux) Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-11 23:07 ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-11 23:28 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-12 5:46 ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-12 11:54 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-14 15:46 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-14 15:46 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-14 16:53 ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-14 16:53 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <BANLkTik6SS9NH7XVSRBoCR16_5veY0MKBw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-05-14 17:43 ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-15 1:37 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-15 15:27 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-15 15:27 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-15 15:59 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-15 15:59 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-15 22:58 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-15 22:58 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-16 8:51 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 8:51 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-15 16:12 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-15 16:12 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-17 6:00 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2011-05-17 6:00 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-17 6:35 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-17 6:35 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-17 19:22 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-18 5:17 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-18 5:17 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-19 2:15 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-19 2:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-19 2:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-19 2:41 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-19 2:54 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-19 2:54 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-19 14:16 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-20 0:17 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20 0:17 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20 2:58 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-20 2:58 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-20 3:12 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-20 3:12 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-20 3:38 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-20 3:38 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-20 4:20 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20 4:20 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20 5:08 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-20 5:08 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-20 5:36 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20 5:36 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20 7:43 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-20 7:43 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-20 10:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-20 10:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-20 14:11 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-20 15:33 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20 15:33 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20 16:01 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-20 16:01 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-20 16:19 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20 16:19 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20 18:09 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-20 18:40 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-20 18:40 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-21 12:04 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-21 12:04 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-21 13:34 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-21 13:34 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-21 14:14 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-21 14:14 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-21 14:44 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-21 14:44 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-22 12:22 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-22 12:22 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-22 23:12 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-22 23:12 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-23 16:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-23 16:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-23 17:35 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-23 17:35 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-24 1:19 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-24 1:34 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24 1:34 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24 11:24 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-24 11:24 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-24 11:55 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-25 0:43 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-25 0:43 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-21 14:31 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-21 14:31 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-19 14:51 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-19 14:51 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-19 15:00 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-19 15:00 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-20 0:20 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20 0:20 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-15 22:40 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-15 22:40 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-17 5:52 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-17 5:52 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-17 6:26 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-17 6:26 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20 10:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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